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QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Oct 6, 2009 -> 03:16 PM) I would love that lineup, but the biggest problem remains the money issues. Figgins is going to cost you $10 million or more per season and Johnson probably $7-8 million. That's way too much than we can afford. I didn't know you were funding the team's payroll.

QUOTE (1977 sox fan @ Oct 6, 2009 -> 09:38 AM) i know everyone here wants to keep our rotation the way it is but to fill our bullpen problems and to bring in a real good bat like a gonzales or whoever i mean guys who may play more then another 2 yrs we will need to move one of our starters . i would prefer to trade buehrle say to st louis and take the prospects in that trade plus add some from our system to get adrian gonzales . but most here believe trading buehrle would be a crime i guess because he has been with the team so long but i think we could get good trade value for him now and use it to get gonzales . but if we dont do that then package floyd with prospects to san diego and get him . It's a bad idea to move one of the starters unless you have someone to fill that spot from within. I'm not too confident trying to replace the 4th starter who will not come close to a Floyd or Buehrle. Look at what happened with the 4th and 5th spots this year. Contreras on the mound was similar to a forfeit. The 5th starter was missing on a rehab assignment. Yeah Freddy looked good but at what point with veterans doe age become a serious factor. Trading Buehrle for "prospects" is a crime only worthy of capital punishment. There's no guarantee in prospects. 2009 should be irrefutable evidence since Kenny was banking on his prospects in Spring training. Before Freddy showed up there was about 13 wins and who knows how losses in the 5th starter spot alone. You never, never give up good pitching unless you can't resign a guy or someone is on their way up from the farm who has exposure. When you have to get it elsewhere, it become expensive and even bad pitching is expensive. This is the MLB and if you need some good hitters then the organization needs to pay for them. Quit trying to trade and make a new hole. The Thome trade created a whole in CF that lasted almost 3 seasons and most fans aren't happy with Rios and his contract. Keep the 4 starters and hopefully Freddy/Hudson can keep the 5th spot around .500. Hopefully the D will not be in the bottom in giving up runs. Hopefully bad base running will be fixed. The team speed has improved so that means putting pressure on opposing pitchers. By all means they should spend some money this off season. That is part of how to win in MLB until the owners have enough common sense to go to a salary cap. Don't trade. BUY!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 6, 2009 -> 08:57 AM) I could really see the Sox trying to bring Big Jim back. I know what Kenny said, but what other left handed run producers out there that fit our budget? I hope not. He gets hurt playing the DH spot and that isn't gong to change anytime soon. I hope they get away from aging, one dimensional base cloggers. How they address the DH will be the most interesting move in the off season. I wonder if it will be a spot they do a lot of platooning and come from within.

QUOTE (whitesoxlove @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 11:22 PM) I love Prince Fielder but I wouldn't give up Danks or Floyd for him. Pitching is the most important thing. Best post yet. Didn't we just spend most of 2009 without any reliable 4th, 5th starter?

Wasn't this guy a shoe in to be a Cub? I can't think of a bigger wish for any Sox fan/Cub hater. Oh yeah and the guy has kicked ass in his AL debut.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 04:46 PM) This one complements the Milton Bradley trade idea thread very well. I expect Phil Rogers to write about it soon.

May I suggest never to read another Rogers article again. If they ever decide to have a Dumbass Journalist Hall of Fame- he's a first ballot. It seems most of the Chicago sports journalists like to reinvent "stupid" on a daily basis.

The control thing needs to be fixed if Hudson is to work out of the pen. It appears potential starters are working out of the pen and used for emergency starts. There's always a chance Freddy could suck next year.

QUOTE (son of a rude @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 03:44 PM) Plus we get to see offseason fantasy trade suggestions my favorite part about the offseason The toughest part is leading them back to reality.

Check this out about Pods. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...rtnerId=rss_cws

QUOTE (GO CHI SOX! @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 05:22 PM) 13th pick protected here we come! Do you have any idea who that pick may be?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 05:18 PM) Thank god. Minus Beckham, Hudson, Buehrle etc.. we were not a joy to watch. Hey you left out Linebrink I think adding a personality like Peavy will make the team much better. I'm glad we got to see him pitch.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 04:59 PM) Defensively he had a lot of errors but there's been some talk that he's nimble enough to handle 3rd if he can get all the moves down; he could well grow in to at least an average 3b. I'm much more worried about his bat. His bat comes around and we'll find a place for him. Oh the Josh Field experiment. This is what bothers me about the Sox farm system. They try to grow a person into a position where a player should know how to catch a ball before they even enter the lowest level of professional baseball. The only thing it accomplishes is creating DH/below average Lamar Johnson type 1st basemen.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 05:04 PM) Which season has not involved a significant makeover of the roster? He'll surprise us. That's the only thing I'm confident about. Weren't you surprised this year with that April lineup? I don't see a significant makeover since he started doing that around the waiver deadline. The starting rotation and infield is probably set.

I think the off season will disappoint many fans. I don't see the Sox making any major trades since they don't have much to trade without it hurting them in other areas. I doubt Jenks will be traded. Closers are hard to come by and they do cost money. Trade M.B.? Nope. Why weaken one of the most solid staffs in baseball? Get rid of him and create ?s at the 4th, 5th spot. Just a repeat of 2009. Could Dye be back? That may depend how low of a deal he will take. I wonder if Kenny would say no to 1 yr. @ $5M? He might be an affordable D.H. They over spent on the last one. Maybe Kotsay will be the D.H. I would not be surprised if they don't sign Pods. He's never had two good back to back seasons. Amazing comeback. I doubt P.K. will be traded. I see a lot of fans consider trading players to free up some money. Well they went in budget mode last off season and where did it get them? Contreras and Colon were to replace Javy. Fields was to replace Crede/Uribe. The Yankees were laughing their ass off over the oh god please take Swisher deal. There was a reason why they were predicted to be 4th is because if they continued with that same group this team would really suck. Funny how the Twins have some of last year's Sox players and they might be in the post season. You have to spend some money if you want to be competitive. I don't ever see the Sox on the winning end of a bidding war. They'll sign a type B free agent in hopes they have a career year. At least there is a little more speed on the bases now. That will come handy when the team stops manufacturing homers. I hope they keep Pods because he's a good hitter. Quentin has yet to play a full season.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 03:11 PM) 2010 LF Pods SS Beckham RF Quentin 1B Konerko DH ??? C AJ CF Rios 2B Ramirez 3B Viciedo How has Viciedo been doing in the minors? I heard at one time they don't think he can play 3rd but 1st. I can't see how ALexi going back to 2nd and now Beckham at SS would improve anything.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) Even after a bad season I hate the last day of the baseball season. It means the arctic winter starts... six months of no White Sox. Next summer, my home will be a few blocks away from the Sox Spring Training Facility. Of course the down side is not getting to see many Sox season games on TV. Has anyone tried that MLB web streaming package? That's what I might have to opt for.

QUOTE (CSF @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 01:53 PM) Even though that 2nd half was beyond brutal, big thank you to Jermaine Dye for the 5 years he wore the Sox uni, and helping this squad to the promised land in '05. I wouldn't totally rule him out of being on the team next year. He might sign cheap to play DH.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 09:01 PM) Only the Tigers can lose to a team who left about 50 men on base and can't score more than a run with the bases loaded and less than two outs. I guess the Tigers lineup are tops in strike outs.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 03:00 PM) STFU Phil Rogers. Amen.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 12:39 PM) Sigh. He is reading Soxtalk. Knowing Rogers he was probably thinking the Cecil was still playing.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 08:50 PM) Despite that inning right there, Pena scares me. Big. I don't look forward to him on the mound next year in the 7th or 8th Inning with the lead for sure Some fans have him penned as the closer for 2010. I still put him in the McDougal category.

QUOTE (GO CHI SOX! @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 08:24 PM) It's official: Magglio Ordonez under contract for $18M in 2010 Detroit -- In his third at-bat Tuesday evening, Magglio Ordonez reached on an error by Royals third baseman Alex Gordon. Oh, yeah, and he also guaranteed himself $18 million next year. Batting in the bottom of the fifth inning, the Tigers right fielder picked up his 1,080th plate appearance since the start of 2008 -- and that's the magic number that automatically triggers his hefty option for 2010. Ordonez signed with the Tigers ahead of the 2005 season for five years and $75 million guaranteed. And that deal paid dividends, for certain: Ordonez hit the walk-off homer that sent the Tigers to the World Series in 2006, then hit .363 to win a batting title in 2007. That vesting option, however, has been a source of great debate this season as Ordonez, 35, hasn't looked like the All-Star of old. Ordonez had an extremely rough time in the first half, batting just .260 before the break -- a slump that led manager Jim Leyland to announce in early July that Ordonez would only platoon with Clete Thomas, playing only when the Tigers were facing a left-hander. That situation didn't last, and that's Ordonez's doing. Entering Tuesday night's game, his average was up to .296 thanks to a hot stretch in which he batted .402 since the beginning of August. But there's actually a sobering reality to that .402 -- 34 of the 43 hits were singles. The power and run production simply haven't returned as the average has climbed. While he's up to .296, he has just seven home runs and 40 RBIs. The last time Ordonez had a completely healthy season in which he didn't hit at least 21 homers and 99 RBIs was 1998, his rookie season with the White Sox. The Tigers likely will be on Ordonez Watch next season, too. He's up to 457 plate appearances for this season and if he reaches 1,080 between this year and next, he'll automatically activate a $15 million deal for 2011. I bet Jim Hendry is jealous that he couldn't make such a ridiculous deal.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 2, 2009 -> 11:44 PM) I wouldn't take Sanchez for our 5th starter spot. He's simply not good. He walks the world. I think that would be wasting Konerko. That's not as dumb as trading another starter. Didn't they just go thru that this season with Contreras, Colon, Richard, Garcia, as the 4,5th starters? How many teams have 4 solid starters without spending $$$$? I would not be surprised if there is very little change next year. I doubt it will be through trades. While the White Sox may be a cheap ass organization when it comes to spending money, I wish fans would realize there is no salary cap in baseball. "Let's trade so and so to free up some money". Yeah that's fine but you still have to replace them and maybe Dye is signed at $3M is a better value than spending $9M on Figgins. That's always been the White Sox thinking. They never sign the big free agents, they go for the mid tier guys and hope they put of their best career numbers for the Sox. That's what happened when they first signed Dye.

QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 2, 2009 -> 11:40 PM) I'm really looking forward to an offseason filled with hilarious trade proposals. It's already started.