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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:54 PM) 3 out 2 in the loss column after taking 4 of 5 from the teams in front of you is not the time to dismantle. As poorly as the Sox have played, it would be way worse than the White Flag Trade. Not. Even. Close. I think the Sox add a little something before the deadline. Its time to start winning. Well, all of this Quentin talk makes it seem like at least some form of "subtracting" is imminent. And so if that does happen, where does the "add" part of the equation come in, at least the part that assists us in the 2011 campaign. The names mentioned in each of the Quentin trade rumors seem to be earmarked as contributors to 2012 and beyond. A-Ram, for better or for worse, at least has been the only name really bandied about as a possible significant addition for this year's race (and even that, his name hasn't garnered any real speculation by the media). I wonder who the possible additions might or could be.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:33 PM) U beat me to it.... Have viciedo in right and aram at 3rd I haven't been a big fan of Aramis in recent years, but this year he's been on his game, so as long as the rental cost wasn't too extravagant, he could be the perfect addition to pick up any offensive slack lost in a Quentin trade, while also upgrading a position we happen to be deficient at (offensively speaking).

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) Interesting as this again contradicts all other reports. If they're looking to ADD payroll ( which has not yet been said by ANYONE else ) they're not going to dump Q. Is it out of the realm of possibility that Quentin is traded, yet someone like, say, A-Ram is acquired?

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 08:23 PM) Erm. That's the direct opposite of what others have been saying. Yes, but it's the July trade deadline, the Sox are only 3 games out, and this is KW we are talking about. Nothing would surprise me at this point!

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) I'm thinking all of this chatter is just KW trying to drum up demand. KW is trying to play teams off of each other in the media to see if some GM is dumb enough to give up their top prospect for Quentin. I doubt Q is traded. That's the beauty of where KW is at the moment. He does NOT have to trade Quentin. If we all wake up on Monday morning and Q is still our starting right fielder, well, that is far from being a bad situation for us. He'll still be more than welcome in our line-up. And that's KW's ultimate leverage with his suitors. We are not terribly motivated to move him, and so to do so, those teams interested in Q's services will really have to make it worth KW's while. Not a bad place for our GM to be!

I feel like I've wandered into some alternate universe. It's one where the White Sox are but a mere three games out of 1st in a division there for the taking, but instead of Kenny Williams looking to make some splashy additions to the team like he usually does at this time of year, he's entertaining subtracting one of our best players, and perhaps even an all-out firesale. Aye caromba!

QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 01:35 PM) @jaysonst Jayson Stark Other teams now say #WhiteSox would "absolutely" move Quentin in right deal - but "not bound & determined to move him." More in Daily Rumble Ya gotta love the posturing!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2011 -> 12:04 PM) I wouldn't mind being the beneficiary of that type of behavior, one team driving up the price to hurt the ohter. And then let's not forget about the other team that is purportedly interested if, in fact, Carlos is made available - the Red Sox. They, too, can be rather influential in driving up the price.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:46 PM) Nope, just tired of all the overzealous rage around these boards when we dont call up, or trade for a f***ing PROSPECT. some of the people around here, I think their worlds would come crumbling down around them if Viciedo came up and ended up no better than Juan Uribe, without the defense I love prospects, but I love proven major leaguers a hell of a lot more. But you can continue thinking I'm only here to dismiss our minor leaguers as nobodies with no future Please keep missing the point I'm making, because that's the only way you can continue with these ridiculous f***ing responses to my posts Now why on earth would I think you were here to do just that!

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:07 PM) Dude, De Aza had a f***ing .876 OPS in AAA, Josh Fields was a AAA stud. 1. SOME, BUT NOT ALL (OBVIOUSLY) Prospects bust. That's why they're called prospects, and not major leaguers. 2. I never said Viciedo will bust. I said he could bust. Next First of all, FIXED. "Next" would hopefully result in you cease and desisting on constantly being so negative around here. Geesh! Viciedo and De Aza appear to be living up to their potential by lighting it up there down in Charlotte this year, and ALL you can talk about is the possibility of each of them being a bust up here at the Major League level. Not the probability of either of them bringing forward their progress - nooooo, you would never think to talk about that - but simply the possibility of them "busting" out. Thanks so much for the shot of positive thought there, as usual. Glass is always 1/4 full with you, isn't it! Lol! (I would be remiss if I didn't add that signature and gratuitous phrase of yours!)

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:58 PM) Because he had a productive 100 AB doesn't really mean anything. The league won't even get to attempt to make legitimate adjustments to you with that small of a sample size He could end up busting, just like Beckham has (yeah, I went there) So all of this continual progress by Viciedo ever since we signed him, along with the fact that he is absolutely dominating AAA ball this year, and you are talking about "busting"? What is it with you sometimes!!

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) one person mentions colby rasmus and all of the sudden the entire board, most which had little to no idea who Rasmus even WAS goes apes***, lol group think mob mentality here at Soxtalk But you did, no doubt. Lol

I'm excited to see what De Aza can do, now given this opportunity. Based on his skill set, if he plays well, he could be the heir apparent to the lead-off man role for next year.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:44 AM) I think I will wait until we know the actual trade details for sure, like who the minor leaguer(s) is/are, before jumping off a cliff. Also, let's see what else KW is doing here. But if the trade is in a vacuum, and the prospect is worth nothing... then yeah, that's garbage. "And on the other hand, maybe this is the most opportune time to turn over the entire roster and get some young, exciting players in here and go that route." With all of that said, I don't see how he can make this deal without this so-called "prospect" being at least somewhat "exciting", but we shall see!

I think it would be something akin to gross negligence on the part of Sox management not to at least give him a shot at starting and see what we might have there. And if it doesn't work out, well then, you just put him back in the 'pen again. Simple as that!

That at-bat said it all about one Alex Rios.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 08:23 PM) sell off what? Rios and Dunn are the contracts that are destroying this team (And Peavy's) sell off the contracts that are actually helping the team, and keep the trash? this makes no sense. Yep!

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 07:59 PM) Overuse - Which would have been the word to describe Guillen's use of Danks tonight had he followed your advice and let the guy who just came off the disabled list try and finish tonight's ballgame.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 20, 2011 -> 07:46 PM) Insurance run, please...? Maybe next inning?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 02:28 PM) I'm with you on that. I'd actually cancel our season tickets for 2012 if that happened. Having said that, there is no way KW trades Viciedo. He refused to give him up last year. Don't remember hearing that he was being offered in trade talks in the past. IMO, Viciedo is one of KW's last signs of credibility as a GM. If he becomes a star hitter, it will take off some of the heat from some of his other moves, such as the Hudson deal. Well, that's not exactly true. The story at the time, IIRC, was that Williams told the Nats GM Rizzo that he could have anyone he wanted from the Sox' system for Dunn - and that included Viciedo. The refusal was that of Rizzo to take Kenny up on that offer and accept Viciedo as fair payment for the "services" of one Adam Dunn.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 18, 2011 -> 08:48 PM) Teahen would make nice sense for them. It'd be a $ dump from the Sox end I'd have to think. They said the Buckos were looking for a "hitter". That eliminates Teahen from consideration right off the bat - even before you consider his ridiculous contract situation.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 18, 2011 -> 08:39 PM) thornton in a save situation? ozzie never learns Ye of little faith!

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 13, 2011 -> 02:01 PM) Maybe it's my faulty memory, but I feel like '97 was totally different. 3.5 games out with lots of signs of life. This year's team hasn't played well at all for 95% of the season so far, and with a record payroll there are major implications in not dealing some guys. This team has the feel of a total failure, only because on paper they should be running away with the division. Of course, that also implies that you don't want to give up to soon because they could get hot, but it would be very very risky to hold onto Jackson/Quentin. I see what you are saying, but it's quite possible that despite how awful we've looked this season, we could conceivably find ourselves only 3.5 games out in the next week or so. And if that's the case, then I just can't see us making any moves that would even remotely appear to make us weaker vs. stronger for the remainder of this season. The only way I see trades of any useful veterans is if we take a nosedive in the standings between now and July 31st.

I'm assuming all of this talk and speculation about moving significant parts of our ballclub is predicated on the belief that the Sox will collapse in the next two weeks and be completely out of the race for the division by month's end. Because outside of that scenario, I personally don't see any useful veterans being moved for younger talent, especially unproven talent. That would completely fly in the face of and contradict the "ALL IN" propaganda of this year, and more importantly, it would signal another "White Flag" scenario. I cannot for one second imagine Jerry Reinsdorf allowing this organization to get anywhere near a situation whereby the Sox could be construed as throwing in the towel prematurely. The amount of criticism and abuse that was heaved on this organization after the "White Flag" trades of '97 was unbelievable. I could see, maybe, a trade of someone like Jackson for someone who could be viewed as instrumental in this year's race, but otherwise, I just don't see any of this happening, unless we fall out of the race in the next couple of weeks.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 08:46 PM) All I know is it would devastate me to know that I would never see a grandchild because my only child (assuming I just had one son) decided to be gay. And that the family name would essentially die when he died. And let's not get it twisted. Sexual preference is a choice. It's not like coming into the world black, white, etc. When did you get that sexual preference questionnaire where you checked off your sexual preference "choice" as heterosexual? When did you consciously make that "choice"?