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I want to be hopeful of 2021 but Bulls haven't been a serious contender in the FA market since 2010. We can make excuses and blame it on being a young team in rebuild mode, but even when we were making playoffs with Rose, Noah and Butler and had cap spaces we were never in serious running. There has to be something more than winning that detracts FAs from Chicago.

If Robert rakes these next 3 weeks in Charlotte, which I think he likely will, I would call him up after TDL. Madrigal on the other hand could use another month in Bham and spend rest of year in Charlotte, then the first few weeks next season. Difference is I think Robert is someone who needs more seasoning at MLB level to make adjustments. If he called up the last 2 months and struggles but comes back next year and sets up himself up for a solid rookie year, that's a win for us. Madrigal, with how fundamentally sound he is, shouldn't need much time to get adjusted at the highest level, I'd rather play the service clock game with him.

Absolutely. And we may not be done if raBBit's math is right from the last page, we still have about $67K left for Trenkle or Britt. Britt I think is a definite no, but I haven't seen solid confirmation Trenkle is going to school. Would $192K be enough to change his decision?

This helps explain BABIP from a quality of contact perspective. Hard hit data is not available in MILB, but I think soft GB and FB are the most common occurrence for Madrigal right now. If he becomes more a line drive hitter, even making soft to medium contact would help boost his BABIP tremendously https://www.fantraxhq.com/sabermetrics-quality-contact-babip/

His quality of contact is pretty poor actually. Too many weak grounders or choppers right now where at MLB level he’s going to see defensive shifts and OF playing in to take away some of those hits. He has 60 grade on speed, so you aren’t talking about a burner on base paths either. All in all, you’re giving a projection of the absolute best case scenario and not the most likely scenario. If he does hit .350 with .900+ OPS he’d be a top 3 MVP candidate when coupled with his other tools, which again, would be an unrealistic projection for Nicky.

.290 is career BA and I think we could expect some peak seasons north of .320. If he does even better than that great. I think his inability to tap into any power and lifting the ball the first few years will drag his BA and BABIP down a bit.

I think reasonable career slash is probably .290/.330/.430 with 30 SBs a season and strong defense at 2B. That’s probably a solid 2.5 to 4 WAR player right there, which is Sox expected him to be when he was drafted. At his peak I think you could expect a few .850 seasons and all star appearances.

He's 34 and fragile. Due $120M + next 3 years. Another contract I wouldn't want to touch. I suppose he'd makes sense for the Heat if they missed on RW. Now I'd think Heat would have to move Dragic in that scenario and they'd look for a 3rd team to take Dragic. I'd consider giving Dunn, Arci, Blakeney, and Felicio plus a protected 1st down the road to the pick him up

I saw that number I was like fuck that! It would be interesting to see which win-now team is desperate enough to trade for him and what they’re giving up in addition to absorbing that contract.

Westbrook has gotten worse as a shooter instead of getting better, major red flag since his game predicated on athleticism and he's getting up there in age. I'd however want to take a chance on him if his deal expires in 2 years and sets up for a run at Giannis. But with effectively 4 more years left that deal is going to be really ugly by years 3 and 4. I hope some team in the East takes him so they could seal their fate as a first or second round team the next 4 years.

Ramos is looking more and more like legit prospect with each passing day. I wonder if he gets tested in GTF if he keeps this up, which I don’t think it’s a big jump given how hitter friendly that league is.

Please have the mortgage on your house paid off by then.

Um no thanks. 5% BB vs a 32.5% K rate. Unsustainable .375 BABIP. He’s going to be a 2 outcome player in the MLB if he even gets there. Sure let’s trade a catcher who earned his way to MLB for a flavor of the month who had one hot month. There are plenty to b**** about White Sox player development but missing on Sam Huff is far from one of them.

I’ll still put Basabe and Adolfo ahead of Bush.

They had room to sign both for around $200k

Good call. Kid is still 16 year old so he’s almost a full year younger than most LatAM signings. 6 foot tall and weighs a buck fifty, so he’s got a lot of some projections left.

He’s my personal favorite. Young for league, good ISO, BB and K%

It also to do with all the players and all the trades mentioned, Tatis Jr might be the best young player of the bunch and that trade was worst of the bunch. ESPN came out with their annual top 25 under 25 list the other day, FTJ was already ranked 3rd behind Bellinger and Acuna. There is no telling how good the kid will be. As long as he is still making headline or god forbids becomes the best player on the league one day, Sox fans will not be able to look past this trade.

My boy Ramos with another 2 hit game. AZL offense is a well-oiled machine.

I think had he played for the Bulls and has a resume that rivals or exceeds Jordan’s, the fan base would have been more accepting of him being the GOAT, vs him not having played for this franchise at all. That said, there is definitely a bit of added pressure to succeed with constant comparisons to MJ if you’re at an all timer level, which can’t be said about all max level players, don’t think it moves the needle to the point where we’re not even in any considerations however.

I agree with Jenks that the perception of the ownership group, especially in basketball, is one of the key factors in the decision process especially for a premier free agent. Money is only a minor factor in this sport since money is the same everywhere except from their original team (it also doesn’t help with Illinois tax rate). While we have team prestige from 20 years ago, all of it is probably offset by the negative perception of this franchise, both management and ownership from recent years. It’s going to be hard for us to attract a true max level star unless our core players are heads and shoulders better than our competitors.

Mena is ranked 91st in Perfect Game's rankings (take this with a huge grain of salt), and the other two guys seem to be extreme under the radar prospects.

I still think 2019 was their best chance given they could have fit any 2 max contracts with a few moves to clear cap space. I know that our big 3 are young, but they only need to be complimentary pieces in that scenario. Heck, people are even penciling Nets as a legit contender next season when KD comes back fairly healthy, and I will just mention again that I think Bulls core is better than Nets core by a good margin. Now if we want to put all eggs in the 2021 basket, we’d need the big 3 plus Coby to yield at least 1 star and a couple of strong complementary pieces AND to be able to get to the 2nd round of playoffs. With Lauri extension kicking in then, they’d only have room for 1 max so it puts more pressure to have a strong foundation and whoever that’s gonna come in will put us over the top of being a legit contender.

Considering KD and Kyrie was a package deal, IDK who else would have been realistic for them. I don't think the winning culture was the reason they were chosen. They have a pretty decent young cast sans DLO, but it wouldn't have been better than the Bulls cast, who for the record would have room for 2 Max if they didn't trade for OPJ and have gotten rid of Felicio's contract. Maybe the new management has done a better job than I initially gave them credit for, but the aura that is playing in NY and not for a franchise named the Knicks and also being in a wide open East has a lot to do with it too. Otherwise, the Clippers, who made playoffs with the core that could have stayed intact even with 2 max contracts would have been the obvious choice in the winning culture narrative.