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This is just mind boggling. There’s no way this is the offer they proposed. Even as a negotiating tactic it’s such a beatable offer and makes no sense. How are other teams not jumping all over this?

I guess Machado could have told the Phillies he prefers Chicago to them, but that would hurt his negotiating leverage with the Sox. The Phillies could have changed direction intentionally to focus more on Harper, but that could also be a tactic to try and put more pressure on Machado to make a decision. At this point I don’t think anyone really truely knows what’s going on other than the players, the agents, and the front offices. This is all just so tiring to try and figure out. The negotiations are like a Mexican standoff where nobody wants to give in. Patience literally is a fucking virtue.

Would love to know as well. Can you at least say if it was a trade or FA signing?

This would be my guess. Yea, I find that hard to believe. Unless Harper has specifically told the Sox "I will not play for you," (which is moronic because it's the only other team that can offer you a mega deal) I can't see the Sox being completely out on him.

Fuck, that's disturbing. Piece of shit x1000.

SoxFest is the holdup! Manny clearly doesn’t want to attend. (I joke)

And people wonder why so many Sox fans are bitter and have a chip on their shoulder. The organization gets treated like trash outside it’s fans. I get that some of it is deserved for how it’s been run the past decade or so, but when you have a team with one of the lowest payrolls and in all of baseball and hardly any money committed over the next few years - why would they be considered a long shot? They have the money Manny wants and he fits on this team ridiculously well.

I don’t recall seeing this mentioned, but Melvin Upton was on MLB Network and he said coming from experience that playing with family on the same team is very special and in his case absolutely would play a part in the decision making of where to sign. Also said if there was a big difference in money, you almost have to go with the big money. Nothing we didn’t already know/feel but at least it’s from the perspective of a guy who played with his brother.

I would think Yolmer is the one most worried right now.

I certainly hope so. But the Sox need to opportunity to match the Phillies in $$$ if they beat the Sox initial offer.

If Philly signs both, Soxfest will be a disaster for Hahn and co. That town hall meeting is going to be brutal.

Ugh... Baseball gods, be kind...

Harper is a better fit for Philly because he is a lefty. Manny makes more sense at this point, especially after the Alonso/Jay deals.

That's a really low amount for a 1 yr. deal. He really had no market.

Looks like they are out on Harper!

He’s trolling. It’s far more likely the Cubs move perhaps one of the best fielders in the game (Baez) to SS and move Happ to 2B. They don’t have money. Darvish, Chatwood, and Heyward are all sunk costs, and if they have any hope of retaining Rizzo or Bryant, they need to start planning now.

That’s not a reason to not call him up if he’s banging on the door. I’d rather he learn to pitch at the MLB level before the Sox are in contention.

Only those two? I wouldn’t count out Luis Gonzalez. I think he could quietly become the best out of that group (outside of Eloy). Basabe theoretically should be the next OF on deck after Eloy comes up, but I’ve always considered him more of a 4th OF once the Sox are contending.

Makes sense. If this team was knocking on contention's door, the need to add both would be greater. Get 1 proven superstar, and continue to let the rebuild run it's course. Keep some $$$ available for next offseason and chase a SP if it's needed.

I found that curious too. I guess we never did entertain the idea about a contract without an opt out. Maybe the Sox don't want to give him that option.

I think if Clarkin was claimed, we would have heard something by now. Seems like enough days have passed since his DFA.

Excellent news if true. Next week is going to be nuts.

I think it’s just his opinion. He usually drops the ? when he finds something out.