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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 08:07 PM) Um, GWB intervened in the auto industry. Obama took over two thirds of the industry. And I never claimed GWB was right wing. Either way, my point remains that taking over private industries is not a right wing maneuver.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 08:15 PM) You should make more posts that have lines like these. You should be familiar with them. I've aimed some of them at you.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 07:33 PM) The article in the OP is pretty dumb (oh my, where have the manners gone?!) but this is accurate: Did we just agree on something? I think Hell just froze over.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 07:29 PM) you sound like a spartan. or a klingon. I should have figured you wouldn't think much of the "honor" thing.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 07:32 PM) sorry, but you've pushed my buttons today - Waaaaaa. Cry some more, bro. I've never thought much of Bachmann. Certainly not my first choice. And I never denied that both sides have their share of dumbasses. Sarah Palin is a dumbass on my side, and I hate her guts. That doesn't make Harrop's behavior more acceptable. Especially as the leader of a civility project.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 07:28 PM) people like you are just SO misinformed there's no point to even try and show you a bit of reality. Obama's not a leftist and never has been. He's governed to the right of center. You might not believe that, but it's true. Give me a f***ing break. Are you really saying this? And you don't even provide proof. You just pick up some crap you read on the Huffington Post and then expect me to buy it, no questions asked. And then you call me misinformed. Hilarious, but typical of someone like yourself. Obamacare, the stimulus package, intervening in the automotive industry, desperate protection of entitlements, his constant apologizing to enemy powers, his failure to support Israel, his disrespect towards the military and American exceptionalism, his support for the unconstitutional UN Small Arms Treaty (hell, his support for the UN in general), etc. None of these are right wing ideals. Yes, he did extend the Bush tax cuts, but only as part of a compromise, because he is a gutless man who prefers to lead from behind and because he had just gotten his ass beat in the midterms. Is that all you have? And hell, you didn't even have it. I gave it to you. Check your facts next time you call someone misinformed. Check what polls? Here's a 2010 poll from Quinnipac University showing that the Tea Party is viewed favorably by 28% and unfavorably by 23%. This is backed up by this Gallup poll from 2010 that gives almost identical numbers. Now here's a Gallup poll showing that self-identified conservatives outnumber liberals in America by almost a 2-to-1 margin. And then there's just the fact that the most devastating electoral defeat in American history came hand in hand with the rise of the Tea Party. I'd post plenty of more polls to prove my case, but you're not worth it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 06:46 PM) I believe we decided a while back that wishing people were dead because you disagree with their politics was somethig we don't want in this forum. This goes far beyond disagreeing with Chomsky's politics. He's just a despicable person. A self proclaimed socialist who has gotten rich by milking capitalism and living freely in a country that he openly hates. I'd wonder why he still lives here, but it's obviously because he wouldn't be able to enjoy the comfy intellectual lifestyle that he does in any of the communist, dictatorial s***holes that he loves so much. Noam Chomsky is scum. The only reason I'm not entirely convinced that the world will be better off without him is because he's a senile old fart who is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Actually, come to think of it, that makes me want him to live. For someone as arrogant as him, the realization that he doesn't matter will be worse than death. Also, what separates Noam from Osama? We were happy when Osama died, and rightfully so. After all, he murdered thousands of Americans. So how about Noam? He gave endless moral support to Khmer Rouge thugs who murdered three million Cambodians. I've long believed that supporting murderers or refusing to acknowledge that they are indeed murderers (as Noam clearly did) is no better than being an actual murderer. So I will cheer for his death as I will cheer for the deaths of the Germans who knew about the Holocaust and did nothing, and the Hutus who did not participate in the Rwandan Genocide but chose not to stop it either, and so on. These people are complicit in these crimes and hence deserve no part of this Earth.

Ocean's 12 was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Wish we had kept Jackson now. Well, I never liked that trade, but I think a lot more people are going to agree with that now that Humber has obviously broken down. Should have seen this coming.

Noam Chomsky, aka that guy who severely downplayed the Cambodian genocide and then compared its remaining victims to Nazi collaborators during WWII, says that the pro-Israel Christian right is the most anti-Semitic group on Earth and that they want the Jews eliminated. I'm gonna be so happy when Chomsky croaks.

Iran advises British not to use violence in dealing with the riots. I'm becoming convinced that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is actually the world's greatest comedian disguised as an insane tyrant. You just can't make this s*** up.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 04:16 PM) Surprised there hasn't been a thread about this since the UK is in the same boat as we are (less the rioting). Thought this would be a good article to start some discussion: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-...sed-youths.html I have a feeling liberals will hate it and conservatives will applaud it. Yeah, those Asian dudes running the Western Union shop that got destroyed totally looked like rich oppressors of the poor (er, in this case, suburban brats acting up because a drug dealer got whacked). I hope next time a looter shows up to wreck those guys' livelihoods, claiming that he's just showing the rich that he can do what he wants, the dude with the mini mutton chops beats him to death with a steel pipe. Little bastards deserve it.

Joe Wilson was right. Obama lies. I'd suggest Chicago Jesus apologize to Colonel Wilson, but that'd be asking a devout leftist to show moral courage. Not gonna happen.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 01:07 PM) Yeah, on things that would put you on the "Not a Republican" list, I'd say tolerance is pretty high up there. If the left, who spends so much of their time virulently insulting black conservatives who dared to think for themselves, is the standard bearer for tolerance, I'd rather have nothing to do with it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 12:48 PM) To be fair...the changes for Obama happened "When he got into office." Sounds like someone who said what he had to say to be appealing and then either would not or could not keep the promises. If it's the first one, he's a liar. If it's the second, he's a guy in over his head.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 12:18 PM) sorry to burst your bubble, but that's an awful lot of em. In fact, I'm pretty sure there have been more conservative politicians whose affairs have come to light in the media than liberals. i also don't believe a persons personal life impacts how they govern. plenty of great leaders over the years have been adulterers and philanderers. why is it that in THIS day and age, sending a picture of your junk means you're a bad leader? I don't see the connection. It's an honor thing. Some of us have it, some of us don't. I'll leave it at that.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 12:18 PM) sorry to burst your bubble, but that's an awful lot of em. In fact, I'm pretty sure there have been more conservative politicians whose affairs have come to light in the media than liberals. i also don't believe a persons personal life impacts how they govern. plenty of great leaders over the years have been adulterers and philanderers. why is it that in THIS day and age, sending a picture of your junk means you're a bad leader? I don't see the connection. It's an honor thing. Some of us have it, some of us don't. I'll leave it at that.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) When I read your posts, I feel like I'm reading the rantings of Walter Sobchak I'll take that as a compliment. Sobchak was the coolest dude in that movie.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 08:24 AM) you really don't want this guy sunk - honestly. if a republican has to win the presidency, Romney's the least bad of the bunch. at least he's not pure evil and clinically retarded like the other options. Thanks for trying so arrogantly to tell me what to think, but I don't take my marching orders from the likes of you. I'm smart enough to form my own opinions. Fact is, I do want Romney sunk. He doesn't seem able to hold any stance at all. I will never vote for someone who changes their views to increase popularity. It's idiotic pandering. And I don't vote centrist. I vote right wing. You think the Republican Party has gone too far right because you are obviously a liberal who leans left and you fear a strong ultra-right party, but I personally think it's not right enough. The Tea Party is working on that, but there's still more to be done. You dislike the Tea Party because you find it extreme. That's fine. Go vote against it. But it must not be so extreme since its message resonates with so many Americans. And is Obama really anything less than the left's version of the TP? He's as ideologically tied to the left as we are to the right. You support Romney because you figure he's the only Republican who could win and not tear down this moronic leftist infrastructure that the Dems have been so busy creating. Yet I want a candidate who promises to do exactly that.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 10, 2011 -> 08:20 AM) really? come on - who cares anymore? people in authority have affairs. I honestly dont think that precludes them from being great at their job, and thus, i couldn't care less if they have them. we don't think less of our ballplayers if they do the same thing - so why should we about our politicians? I think less of ballplayers who have affairs. Tony Parker comes to mind; don't think much of him anymore. And I don't have any love lost for celebrities who do it either. But there is a big difference between them and politicians, that difference being that celebs and athletes don't have any control of my life. If a politician is low enough to betray his own wife, how soon will he betray the rest of us? If I vote a guy in for his conservative principles and he has an affair, I figure its only a matter of time before he starts betraying me too, probably out of his own career minded convenience. It's about honor. A politician who cheats on his wife has no honor and does not deserve my support.

Rest In Peace, Brave Warriors.

Ladies and gentlemen, meet Froma Harrop, aka Frumpy Harlot. The write up summarizes my thoughts perfectly. It is indeed courtesy of one of my favorite conservative sites, but that doesn't change the idiocy and outright hypocrisy of what Ms. Harlot said. The stupidity of her piece just boggles my mind. And even after being widely and rightfully fried for it, she continues to stand her ground. My favorite part is that, immediately after stating that civility is allowing others to say their piece (in a piece where she is skewering conservatives for saying their piece), she removes the ability to comment on her posts. Guess she doesn't like the whole civility thing after all. I'm really curious what the board's liberals think of this. I'm not trying to bait anyone, but isn't it embarassing having this idiot on your side? I'm embarassed by Sarah "I don't know one f***ing SCOTUS case beyond Roe v Wade" Palin and I really hope you guys are embarassed by Frumpy "I want everyone to be civil and have the ability to say their piece but YOU SHUT THE f*** UP!" Harlot. What sayeth you?

QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 05:55 AM) It seems odd that she should remain celibate while he was having those affairs. So it's acceptable to cheat on your lover if they cheat on you? I strongly disagree. JFK was in the wrong, but by mimicking his poor behsvior, Jackie was equally wrong and equally classless. So what if she couldn't confront him? She could still maintain her dignity and her honor by upholding her end of the marital vows. She chose not to do that, and thus, she disgraced herself as much as he did.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 07:15 PM) I don't want to sound like I am condoning infidelity either, but under these circumstances I can understand her resorting to "retaliatory affairs." JFK was, by all accounts, a serial adulterer. Your advice to confront an unfaithful spouse and then leave him/her makes sense for most normal people, but not for the highest profile couple in the world. Given the Catholic Church's stance on divorce and the fact that there was enormous pressure for the first Catholic psident to be successful, there would have obviously been a huge incentive to keep JFK's transgressions under wraps. As First Lady, Jackie would have had a huge number of insiders exerting extremej prressure to keep quiet and to stick it out with her husband. Certainly, she would have pleaded with her husband to get him to cut the crap, and obviously he fused to do so. Given all of that, I think I understand how Jackie could eventually think she had no choice but to give Jack a taste of his own medicine. I am actually far from being a big fan of Jackie Kennedy-Onassis. I do think there was a gold digger aspect to her, and film of her that I saw recently (her famous White House television tour) left me feeling that she was rather shallow - a pretty socialite and little more. But that may have just been the role she was forced into, and an unfair characterization on my part. Then she takes the high road. That's the upstanding thing to do. Not engaging an affair of revenge. Two wrongs do not make a right.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 07:03 PM) - infinity Benching Paul Konerko for bad baserunning is the most idiotic suggestion ever brought forth in the history of message boards. You are incredibly overdramatic. Disagree with me all you want, but why you're acting like my comment is the end of the world is beyond me. Calm down.