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Orrrrr you could trade for him use him this year and resign him.

I'm starting to get Manny Machado flashbacks

I'm still waiting for an example. If you provide me an example of where I said trade Cease and Dunn for Lynn in here I'll stop giving you shit for being wrong.

Yeah yeah all that's right. Except I didn't say get rid of "these guys". Maybe someday you'll give me an example and stop using straw man arguments.

If that's your attitude how are they going to be in the Dodgers league in 2-3 years? We should just rebuild and give up. If they get that far you let it play out.

Clearly

I think with our top 3 pitchers including him we could go toe to toe with basically any team in the AL in the playoffs.

You mean Rick Hahn isn't ready to punt on 2021?

Where did I mentioned trading both guys for Lynn?

And them doing so would be a first.

Who's been talking about trading them all away? Nice strawman.

But he has service time that we have ownership of. Why waste that? He's cheap and who knows maybe our new pitching coach will turn him around. Remember Giolito? Give it a shot. We're not championship contenders so let's take a swing at it.

Just return all the same guys in that scenario. That way you definitely don't waste ownership. Start Lopez and Cease again and see what happens. We're not championship contenders.

As long as it's for DH and not the outfield.

How many years and struggles do you think we are going to give him then? Also why not Lopez? Let's give Lopez a shot. Your good with watching them "develop" during the 8 run innings during important games right?

Here's a better question. Can we go through a year of having more pitchers with their struggles happening throughout the season? How many more years do you give them? 1,2 or 3? Why not keep trying in that case.

Times a wasting whether you like it or not. Cease and Lopez should have stepped up last year if they wanted to cement themselves in the rotation. That's why they didn't get a playoff start. Hell if your good with the rotation. Why not give Lopez a shot? Stop leaning on the bullpen too let them eat the games they blow up in. We can waste years for more development what's more games during the season?

Damn someone forgot to tell those guys to have patience! What the hell are they doing trying to compete for a World Series next year.

Yes yes I too would like to see Cease and Dunning in the playoffs. I would love to see AL teams that aren't afraid to start winning tee off on those guys. They won't take the time they have in the playoffs for granted like many on here do.

There's no guarantee Cease is even good. There's no guarantee Dunning is good. Both of them were spotty. There's no guarantee the sun comes up tomorrow.

Will we be sorry if Lance Lynn is starting game 2 of the playoffs after hopefully Giolito has a good first game? I won't. You know why? Because we'll have a damn good chance of getting to the World Series.

Lynn is a far far better pitcher right now.

Those are the type of trades your going to have to make to get guys like him under those contracts. Sorry it hurts but too bad. Like I said not all of these guys are going to be spending their careers with the White Sox. We can sacrifice 1 of them to give us a better chance to win a World Series.

If the argument is about sending Dunning or Cease especially Cease for Lynn that should be an easy trade. I'm not sure what the Rangers value of Cease is or the White Sox for that matter. But I'm not sure he's going to get a long leash from us either way. Dunning can stay or go.

I'm being ultra sarcastic. He's going to make money this offseason. In any case is he the pitcher we need? We need pitching but in an ideal world he should only be considered when any other option to add a front line guy is exhausted.