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QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 07:09 AM) Or trade all your young guys for Shaq. Please. I bet Pat Riley would swap jobs with SVG right now if he could. Too bad he can't do that again. The Heat were just woeful on D when you played us yesterday.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 10:59 AM) Nah, Pax put good players in place and they arent playing. Neither one of them will be in trouble. If the Bulls only win 20-25 games this season (which is a real possibility right now), I can't see how either WON'T be on the hot seat. Paxson's fault's for example; 1 - Signing Ben Wallace to a 4 year deal. Right now the Bulls need cap space to re-sign Deng and Gordon, instead they give a $13-14M a season deal to an aging injury prone 30+ year old center. 2 - Drafting Ben Gordon over Andre Igoudola. 3 - Drafting Tyrus Thomas over LaMarcus Aldridge (at this stage, when the Bulls sorely needed a low post scorer instead of a running slasher). And is Skiles the right guy to coach the young players on the Bulls? Thomas for example doesn't have the best relationship with him. You can't just blame the players if things goes badly unfortunately, even though that's where the blame should lie. It just doesn't work that way. Scoring wise, the Bulls don't look capable of getting near 100 points a game at the moment. With Gordon in his usual early season slump, and Deng being injured, it puts more pressue on the likes of Hinrich, and they haven't stepped up and delivered.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 09:38 AM) Adam Archuleta f***ing blows. Can't cover, can't tackle, takes brutal routes to the ball(carrier). What a suck-ass. He's the worst safety in the NFL hands down. Hell even Roy Williams does better in coverage than Archuleta does. Washington's D has improved this season just from getting rid of Archuleta alone. Every defense he has been on has been bad, and unfortunately for the Bears, it's happened again.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 26, 2007 -> 04:14 AM) First, have you ever heard of cause and effect? Second, none of the major economic powerhouses (either current or building up to) has signed on Kyoto? Now why is that? (I know, I know, it's pure bunk and stubborn-ness... whatever)... On the 2nd point I think at least now with Australia willing to jump on board, it's going to put a bit more pressure on those nations such as India and China to follow suit. And that's one of the main reasons why Rudd won, climate change. By willing to sign the Kyoto Protocol unlike Howard, it was looked as if he was doing at least "something" about it, unlike Howard who didn't even really want to see targets for the future unless other nations such as above did. But there's no doubt something needs to be done ASAP about this issue.

Muniz had a 2.45 ERA and 23 saves in AA this season.

QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 24, 2007 -> 11:43 AM) No. I guess the angle was suppose to be Edge and Krystal but Kystal didn't feel like doing it morally and got released. Krystal will do water fights in white shirts but won't be a heel escort with Edge. Would of elevated her career. Yep that was indeed the case. She didn't wanted to be hated like Lita was, which is really pretty stupid. I'm a big Edge fan, and he along with Jericho are most what the WWE needs right now, but yeah this storyline is a bit creepy. It could all end up being like the McMahon Helmsely era though.

$28 for a PS3 game, and a pretty decent one at that. That's why I HATE the state of gaming down here. You'd be paying $100 minimum down here.

I didn't vote for him, so don't blame me; What does this mean for the U.S? Well we'll be pulling out of Iraq pretty soon, it's only a matter of when not if, Rudd clearly stated that in the lead up.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 02:48 PM) Are you "popping" up in one motion or getting on one knee and kind of struggling up? The pop up seems to work better for most people. Once you get the hang of it Shows how spaced out I've been on here when I haven't checked this thread for a week or so. I was taught to get on one knee and then struggle up. I might try to pop up motion instead.

Bulls without Deng look done. I wonder if Skiles will be on the hot seat soon, or how about Paxson even?

Everyone's talked about the big 3 on here, Hunter, Rowand and Jones. But there's another FA CF available this off-season in Mike Cameron. Now yes, he'll miss the 1st 25 games of 2008 and yes there is probably still some bad blood b/w him and the Sox brass for the way he was treated in his 1st stint here. But if there was a chance you could sign him to a 2 or 3 year deal over say Rowand or Jones for 4 or 5, would you look at that? Very unlikely I know, as the Pads are probably going to re-sign him. But he puts up good numbers away from PETCO Park (.789 OPS in away games in 2007 in a down season). And he'e excellent defensively. So I'm just throwing it out there.

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Nov 23, 2007 -> 03:41 PM) I only saw one use of the word if. You need to get up, or atleast be many time zones away to fool me, sir. I do not count if's as if. Thanks. You're becoming quite the expert now aren't you. But yes you are correct.

Big time win. Just shows the impact of special teams. The Hawks have been so bad at it for so long, and right now they're just a lot better, and it's really making a huge difference. Sharp is really becoming quite an important player now. Not the biggest name, but he seems to making an impact when it's needed most.

I disagree that it wasn't the pen that sank the Sox. If we have a good pen in 07 we're a .500 team IMHO.

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Nov 23, 2007 -> 02:48 PM) Maybe he's a ground ball pitcher like Judy Garland. His HR rate would state otherwise.

If Crisp got back to his Cleveland form and actually stayed healthy, he wouldn't be the worst option. But that is a lot of IF'S though.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 23, 2007 -> 01:41 PM) Too much. The Rays always ask for the moon with their players, and if your going to give up the farm for a player, Crawford isn't the guy I want, even with the Sox lead-off situation. Is that reputation built on when Chuck LaMarr was the GM though, instead of the Hunsicker/Friedman combo? Because the new regime has pulled off a few trades since they've been in charge. The Mark Hendrickson deal for example.

Agreed on moving toward Phoenix. When I stayed in Glendale and Surprise a couple of years back, there were a lot of good areas for spring training facilities etc., and you can see why teams such as the Sox wanted to move there. Very glad it happened, because I'd love to go back 1 day.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 23, 2007 -> 11:31 AM) Borowski sucks. Anyways, I hope we sign Yabuta too. Yeah he does. And despite having much better relievers in front of him, the Indians didn't make a change. Could happen again in 2008. Reminds me of the Todd Jones situation in Detroit really. Signing a reliever from Japan and trading MacDougal for prospects (or Luke Scott, because Ed Wade loves his relievers) makes a lot of sense right now.

Easy wins for the Packers and Cowboys again. Don't know if anyone can get close to em in the NFC. The Giants and Seahawks maybe?

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 23, 2007 -> 11:12 AM) As far as I understand, Kobayashi wants an opportunity to close. He was not getting that here without trading Jenks. Well he'll obviously be behind Borowski for the moment. He might not be closing until 2009 at the earliest. And if we did sign Kobayashi, it would give us the luxury of dangling Jenks in trade talks, and we'd get a very nice package back for him, that would help fill our needs in CF and rebuild our system. I hope we still sign Yabuta though.

Sounds like a decent idea. Obviously the stadium situation at the moment is a mess, and Tropicana is argubly the worst MLB stadium going around at the moment. They need something like this in order to be competitve in the AL East. It's all good that they're bringing up young players and everything, but they'll have to pay them one day, and having attendances of 30,000+ will certainly help that. And with the Marlins likely to move from Florida soon, they should get something like this done to keep baseball in Florida over the long - term.

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Nov 23, 2007 -> 09:11 AM) People who are surprised and/or upset with these moves don't understand the direction the team is going. Like it or hate it we're trying to win now. That means established veterans and those types of players tend to be expensive whether your giving up talent (Garland) or cash ($19 million). Personally, I don't really like the direction we're headed because I don't think we have enough to work with but I've accepted it. The dies been cast for a while now. That's not my beef with this move. The pen obviously needs fixing, and I'm glad KW is trying to address that. My problem is, I think there were better options out there on the market. Linebrink could easily post an ERA over 4 for us pitching at the Cell. He gives up a lot of HR's, and he really fell apart in the 2nd half of 2007, maybe because he's thrown too many innings over the past couple of years. The same thing happened to Scott Shields. I compared this signing to the Indians signing Kobayashi. And yes, that is more of a risk / rewards move. But they will be paying about $10M less, and I wouldn't be at all suprised if he puts up better numbers than Linebrink. And they don't lose a draft pick for signing him either. I'd still like for us to sign a reliever from Japan and trade MacDougal mind you. Mac just doesn't have the mental capacity to be a clutch reliever for us.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 05:50 PM) Hell yeah, and how about even that Australian kid on St. Mary's that dropped 36 or 38 on #11 Oregon in that upset last night. Going to be a lot of freshman in the lotto next summer for the draft. Patrick Mills is his name. He made waves down here for how he played for the Australian National Team a few months back. He's small for a PG but he's lightning quick. Reminds me of a Jameer Nelson type of PG actually.

Well I'm glad KW is trying to fix the pen. But maybe that's the only positive I'll say here. I don't like this signing. And it's for these reasons. 1 - He hasn't been good away from PETCO. In 2006 he had a 3.92 ERA in away games, in 2007, that number rose to 4.64. 2 - He'll give up too many home runs. Gave up 12 last season. That number could rise to say 15 pitching half his game at the Cell. For comparisons sake, MacDougal gave up 3 in 07, Thornton 4. So he's not a guy I really would like to bring on with runners in scoring position in an important situation, if you get my sort of thinking. 3 - Post ASB in 2007, he had a 5.23 ERA. Now maybe that was because of the new surroundings etc. But since 2004, he has thrown 84IP, 73.2IP, 75.2IP and 70.1IP. Is he suffering from the Scott Shields syndrome of having thrown too many innings in the past few years? At least he's durable I guess. 4 - We give up another draft pick. Rebuilding the system should be at a premium right now. And yes, I know a few people such as Jason have said, well the Sox could draft someone later on and offer them 2nd round money. But how often do they do that? 5 - We overpaid. No if's or buts. The Indians just signed Masahide Kobayashi to a 2 year deal with an option for a 3rd for 9.5M. So that's about 3.25M a season. We're paying Linebrink about 4.75M a season. Kobayashi could have the better numbers, and Cleveland don't give up a draft pick. So I just think signing a guy from Japan would have made more sense.