Bananarchy

QUOTE (Soha @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) And the Sox are now tied with the A's for the worst record in the AL. But we should try to compete. We have all the pieces we need. Look at all the great development! We don't need a rebuild

QUOTE (ron883 @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 01:51 PM) Yolmer is making this decision much more difficult. Meh, he's 1 WAR right now, which is fine, but his BABIP is high, his strikeout percentage is 20%. Good for him for batting .300 though. Moncada should be a higher ceiling than that.

The F1 race was about as good as it could have been. Alonso burned out at the end of the Indy 500, so I was pretty upset about that.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 08:08 AM) Javon Pickett commits to Missouri and reclassifies to 2018 lol. He's going to get less than 0 minutes there.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 12:20 AM) Great post. I endorse this post heavily. No better way to know you're wrong than get the greg approval. If greg approves, you know you're on the wrong track. It's amazing people still discount the idea of tanking and push positives of developing non-talents. This team is not good and most of the players on this team are not good. There's no route with this "core" of players to a championship. They're 6 games under and sinking. QUOTE (Soha @ Jun 4, 2017 -> 05:40 AM) You don't think the Cubs ever went full tank? Come on, who are we kidding here? They were in bigger tank mode than the Sox have been so far in this rebuild. They made zero effort to actually be competitive in the first few years of the Theo regime. Their 101 tanked losses in 2012 were rewarded with a guy named Kris Bryant. Lol. This. The Cubs won a grand total of 61 games in 2012. Someone tell me it wasn't worth it for the north siders. They probably had idiot fans saying things like "Darwin Barney has been solid the last couple of seasons. We shouldn't tank! He's good enough to go for it now."

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 10:48 PM) Through a draft pick? Give me a break. Alvarez was picked SECOND; where was Trout picked? Beckham? Just be smart and pick the right guy. Fulmer? Great pick. You continue to astound me with how little you know. The obvious sits right in front of you, and yet you completely ignore it and pretend you have any clue. Yet you lack any clue.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 05:08 PM) Robin Ventura or Mike Matheny? Discuss. Yuck. Neither. Between him and Ned Yost. Terrible.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:11 PM) I guess I'm one who doesn't understand the need to root for losses. To me, my mentality is more along the lines of being happy when they win and not caring when they lose. I will never be happy when the White Sox lose, even if it's for the greater good. I mean, seriously, if the White Sox ended up going 96-66 this year, winning the division, and storming through the playoffs, would the reaction here really be "well they should have lost, this is stupid"? Unless this team wins a World Series, the rebuild alternative is better. The thing we know right now is that the team, as constructed, will not consistently be a contender. The parts too old and inconsistent. The young talent is good, but to add a stud high draft pick is arguably more valuable for this organization than a wild card game loss, a third place finish, or faux contention in July. If you're going to lose, lose. I have no problem rooting for the White Sox through thick and thin and I accept that this is what's best for the organization.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 01:52 PM) That is an excellent sentence by bmags. He's right. I fully endorse that statement. Why root for losses? They are coming in droves and will continue to come in bunches. Because losses position the White Sox to situate themselves close to winning a championship, which is the goal.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 04:00 PM) http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/...ankings/majors/ Sox are 2.5 games back of the #2 pick..... Wow. Very impressive.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 02:12 PM) I think they could afford Harper. I don't think they can afford both Harper and Bryant's new deal unless Heyward opts out which seems unlikely. They can afford whatever they want. Their 2020 Cubs network will enable them to afford whatever they want.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 2, 2017 -> 09:49 PM) There is if you're the player. Woe is Kris Bryant. He plays in the world in which he lives. Rules are rules. He's going to get so much money it won't matter. It would be completely out of left field if Bryant suddenly wouldn't sign with the Cubs. QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 3, 2017 -> 11:11 AM) http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/06/03/p...e-chicago-cubs/ Oh... The Cubs can absolutely afford it, but there's really no way to tell what they'll do when it comes to that kind of money. Also, it will be interesting to see what value teams put in clubhouse chemistry. I'm not sure the Rizzo led Cubs would be a good fit for Bryce Harper's personality.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 2, 2017 -> 03:11 PM) They cost him a year of service time and earnings in his prime years for no reason other than they becasue they could The contract is the contract. The rules are the rules. They'll pay him past his prime, anyway. And the Cubs can afford anyone and everyone in the MLB.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 2, 2017 -> 01:55 PM) Cubs: "We'd like to sign you to a long-term deal." Boras whispering to Bryant: "Say no." Bryant: "No thank you." Done. Pretty much. Bryant will likely finish his career as a Cub, but it's going to cost them. But if Harper is going to get astronomical pay, Bryant is going to be worth it.

This is the finals the NBA deserves. The product is just so bad.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) Any person with an expiring contract and control should be off of this roster by August 1, 2017. Absolutely no exceptions. I don't care what it does to our major league roster, they are on a clearance sale as far as I am concerned. Absolutely. The big league team can be bad. The foundation in the minors is improving and most of the expiring contracts are not part of the future White Sox

According to the score, the only worse player in Chicago right now is Melky (really bad on defense)

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 01:45 PM) That's certainly debatable. Very debatable. Lol. No it's really not.

Listened to the White Sox Talk podcast featuring Hawk. He is so well spoken in an interview. He was a seminal part of my baseball understanding and I have 20 years of good memories. I'm not a fan of what his broadcast has become, but cheers to him. Looking forward to the future.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 11:20 AM) Not really. If he's playing great defense at a position where you want that kinda d and he hits 20+ homers a year that's pretty damn good. Since you're a WAR guy, he put up a 4.3 WAR season describing exactly what was said above: great D, 21 homers, and under .250 avg. Sure more is expected of him, but he's nowhere near a bust. Players in the Cubs dugout last year thought Russell would be the best player on their squad. The media bought and ran with it. So, maybe not a bust, but definitely disappointing.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 31, 2017 -> 11:06 PM) Addison Russell is a perfectly fine major leaguer. Dude is a great defensive shortstop with power. Doesn't seem like he'll ever hit better than .250-.270, but if he can hit a few dingers, hold his own at the plate, and flash the leather, he'll be in the majors a long time. That may be true, but expectations were much higher than what you're projecting. I don't disagree with you, but that's a borderline bust.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 1, 2017 -> 12:25 AM) Luckily his glove still plays but he is a returning a c+ prospect at best. Would not be a bad idea to DFA him if he is this bad in three weeks and there is no trade interest, see if someone just will pickup the 4 million or so. Agreed. no need to do anything right away, but if Frazier draws zero interest, DFA and move on.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ May 31, 2017 -> 06:17 PM) ...to you. You stopped liking him whenever you did. Many of us did not, and continue to like him to this very day. To most people. Half the board here, all of the national media, various ranking sites. I like Ken Harrelson, but he's not fit to be in the booth anymore.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ May 31, 2017 -> 05:10 PM) Now it's official. It'll be sad to see the end of an era but it's long overdue. Yes. This all day. The era of Hawk ended a long time ago when he became unlistenable.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 31, 2017 -> 12:58 PM) People have gone off of the deep end with their expectations if they are expecting the Sox to be an annual playoff team because of this rebuild. There is zero comparison between the Cards and Sox. The Cards have a loyal and large fan base, and they are also near the top of baseball in terms of revenue. As of 2016 the difference was $50 million. They have four contracts on their team currently which are bigger than any contract the White Sox have handed out in their team history. What's your expectation? You're all set to turn this cruise ship around and buy buy buy, apparently. There is a clear philosophy change in this organization. Time to get on board. Also, as far as the high contracts go, the White Sox would be more willing to pay them if A) They had any assets worth paying that amount of money B) They hadn't already paid a more than fair price for Q, the only play on the team worth that kind of money C) Weren't trying to rebuild the organization from the ground up