Bananarchy

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 24, 2017 -> 09:51 AM) WAR is still a very flawed stat. But it's reasonably fair comparing players across eras. Pitching wins, by comparison, is NOT a stat.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 24, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) This is exactly why the exercise of comparing stats across eras is so futile. The game has changes and different phases. The comparison really needs to be with how dominant a player was in his own era as the first litmus test for the HOF. It's not really, though. WAR is adjusted for era. We know how much more dominant x player in the 1960s was verses today.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 24, 2017 -> 09:34 AM) i think you are wrong here. The value of them has decreased, rightfully so, but they are not meaningless. A 20 win pitcher vs. a 10 win pitcher, generally stayed in the game longer, was able to be more efficient with pitches, was able to be more competitive deeper into games. As someone said earlier it has decreased significance in a single season as in your example but carries a little more weight over multiple seasons or even a career. Win count does nothing to support your claim. Wins are meaningless. You're talking about innings pitched, pitch count.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 24, 2017 -> 09:00 AM) Should we be concerned this singing hasn't been made official yet? No.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ May 23, 2017 -> 11:54 PM) Saying that wins "mean nothing" is an extreme position that I'm not sure anyone would take. That said, I think it's completely reasonable to acknowledge that wins are far more a product of overall team performance and run support received by a pitcher than they are a product of pitcher performance. I don't think anyone would argue that a 20 win pitcher with a 4 ERA is better than a 10 win pitcher with a 3 ERA, given equal or nearly equal innings pitched. The good GMs in baseball know pitching wins mean nothing. They are completely meaningless. Your example is a perfect example. A 3 ERA pitcher is (generally) better than a 4 ERA pitcher. A 20 win vs 10 win pitcher tells you almost nothing.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ May 23, 2017 -> 09:45 PM) Anybody else friends with Danny Mac on Facebook? He will accept almost anyone's request. Anyway he was at a wedding somewhere recently and he, Jurko and Harry took a photo together. ESPN 1000 has been horrible since they broke up. Really miss that show. That was far and away the best radio show in Chicago Sports. So much fun. Harry Teinowitz has lost SO much weight

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 23, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) http://www.insideradio.com/people_moves/ma...ee01fa52dd.html 16 years... CBS Radio sports “The Score” WSCR (670) Chicago producer/anchor Matt Abbatacola leaves the station after 16 years. According to Chicago media reporter Robert Feder, Abbatacola was passed over earlier this year for the co-host position with Dan Bernstein when Terry Boers retired in January. That position went to midday host Jason Goff who is now paired with Bernstein in afternoons. “The Score” operations manager Mitch Rosen confirmed Abbatacola’s exit telling Feder, “I wish him nothing but the best.” I'm very fond of Matt Abbatacola. Hope he finds a good landing place. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 23, 2017 -> 10:47 AM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/break...0523-story.html Greenberg and Golic on "poisonous terms" apparently as show nears its end. This isn't surprising. Golic is clearly very unhappy with the direction they're going. Honestly, it will be a shame to see Greeny reduced to another ESPN talking head. I feel like in Mike and Mike he's better.

Rebuilds this early on aren't measured in wins or losses. I will say Rick isn't costing the team games at this point like Robin did.

He's joking it doesn't matter move on

What a non-playoffs

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 23, 2017 -> 06:37 AM) The Sox should be looking to cash in on Avi. Find someone who needs a bat this summer and turn him into 3 assets. They should also be cashing in on Jose Abreu given he's so much older than the new core. I get that from a tangibles point of view, but the White Sox should probably try to keep him happy and he will likely make up his value in taking care of the younger guys. It also helps that he's not our most valuable tradable asset by a long shot. If we were talking NL, I think I would agree with you, but with the DH we can hide Abreu just fine longer term.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ May 22, 2017 -> 04:10 PM) Does he have a lot of helium? He eats 10 Brussels Sprouts per every Twinkie Moncada eats

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2017 -> 04:07 PM) Would the Brewers trade Thames for Avi, and vice versa? Both essentially have three year deals, including 2017. $15 million/3 years is cheaper than we'll end up paying Avi if this continues. Thames is already 30 but LH. Which one is more likely to have "figured things out?" Already subject of PEDs rumors from the Cubs. Why would the White Sox do this?

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 22, 2017 -> 03:20 PM) Where can I obtain a McFartington jersey?

As someone with an ethnic last name and an english first name, I no longer care. I don't care if he calls himself Poopdick McFartington if he can hit.

My coworker just congratulated me on the Robert signing. Lol

The sound off the bat. Dang. Go Sox.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 22, 2017 -> 01:23 PM) That would have my guess. Mine, too, but the name is clearly not Spanish. It would almost certainly be English or French

QUOTE (bmags @ May 22, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) White Sox confirmed it's Robert as in Robert Kennedy but, Badler today said the announcers mostly said it as Robert too, it just got confused when people assumed it was Robert due to it being of norman origin/latin/french pronunciation likely in Cuba. Right. That's what I was thinking as well. There's literally no way it was "Robert". Unless he went ahead and was like "I'm playing in America and I want to be a brand name, so let's go with the American pronunciation". Does anyone say Robert in the highlight videos? They're all speaking Spanish, so "Robert" like Redford would stick out.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ May 22, 2017 -> 12:52 PM) Why are other people pronouncing it like he's a Frenchman? I don't know his lineage, but the French pronunciation would make sense if he was of Haitian descent.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 22, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) Back when the Sox got Ozzie, I guess the real pronouncation of his last name was Ge Jen or something like that. They asked Ozzie and he said he didn't care, just as long as they spelled it correctly on the paycheck. Guillen is pronounced correctly (by the Spanish pronunciation) here. Gui-zhen is the Argentinian pronunciation. You are right; early in his career there was some confusion

I'm skeptical of the White Sox signing anyone to long term deals right now outside of the future core.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 22, 2017 -> 11:13 AM) Chuck Garfien said it's pronounced like "Robert" in David Robertson, but others are saying "Ro-bare", so I still don't know how it's supposed to be pronounced. White Sox say "Robert" like Robert De Niro That's just terrible.

It took an hour and ten minutes before S&P learned to pronounce his last name

QUOTE (SouthSide2004 @ May 20, 2017 -> 05:23 PM) The problem for us is still depth. Obviously I would rather be top heavy than deep, but once Moncada, Lopez, Fulmer, & Burdi get called up this season and lose prospect status, our system is going to take a huge hit. Robert helps big time though and hopefully trading Quintana & Robertson (and potentially others) will as well. 1) We're going to be bad for a while. Depth is not a concern when your team is not competitive 2) If we were playing to win, our system ranking would only be moderately important