The Ultimate Champion

Hahn spoke of a "robust" draft and picking better players at the beginning of every round. Well, that applied to the first two rounds, not so much the ones after, but that is totally okay. We need impact talent at the top of our farm, and a couple of these guys could have a nice ceiling if we can develop them. I'm curious to know if we get aggressive at #11 or so, once all the slot bonuses are gone, and try to take someone who would benefit from pool $$$ savings should Rodon and Adams sign for below what our cap will be. I think it's possible that Hahn is clearing himself a nice $$$ ceiling so he can let Rodon & Adams agents feel as though they've made gains and close a deal quicker rather than letting this thing play out too far with a hard cap. Don't want to work without any wiggle room.

Is it just me or does anyone else get a mental picture of Q-tips & ear cleaning/ear infections when thinking of the name "Schwarber." I dunno, just makes me want to clean the s*** out of my ears.

The Cubs are just being smarter than everyone else again, that's all. This is what happens when the video game master stops playing with all the cheat codes on. Level the playing field and oh hey look Theo actually isn't a genius anymore. Who'da thunk it. Not me. Okay me, I did, I knew it all along. Cubs didn't though.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) Read the article. Why would anyone want ot do that? I just clicked it, because you told me to, and immediately saw they rated the Astros pick of Aiken as an F. Okay, I just gave that website a click for nothing.

There;s someone in this draft named Skyler Ewing. What an odd ethnic convergence that must be.

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:52 PM) most ambiguous draft analysis quote: "There's good baseball players and then there's bad ones. Somewhere in that mix is a guy the team drafted." Makes sense. You really don't know what you're getting and you don't really know if your drafted player is capable of making the progress you need him to make in order to play in the bigs.

Raw with upside, no problem with that pick either. Rodon is playing hard to get. Month my ass. Negotiations will start immediately & a shot at MLB time this year is a big deal for anyone.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:09 PM) Hahn's killing it is paling in comparison to your killing it. You're on a roll. Keep up the fine work. Thank you. I have actually work to do but I can't stop following this draft. Need more beer tho.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:08 PM) Just superficially looking at Brett Austin's twitter, he doesn't appear to be good friends with Rodon. He tweeted yesterday how happy he was for Trea Turner getting drafted and that he deserved it, but he never tweeted a single thing about Rodon. And just skimming through his pictures, he's never posted a picture with, or tagged Rodon in anything. It's always Turner and a few other NC State teammates. PTI - Private Twitter Investigator. Great work, we need to get to the bottom of this. Maybe we already are. Isn't the "catcher" always the "bottom"? Anyway this guy needs to help us get Rodon signed. Girlfriends, bottoms, all these things. Let's get this guy in the pen. Downs, see ya later.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:07 PM) Indians signed Justus Sheffield. Good quick sign. Just wait until he sees what the city looks like. True story, according to Farmio, when they drafted Farmio his first thought wasn't something like "Boy I'm so excited I always wanted to play in the big leagues" it was actually "I don't want to play in Cleveland." DJ sounded a bit shocked but he shouldn't have been.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:02 PM) Alright, I'm done taking this draft seriously. Go get me Handsome Monica and Joey Pankake. Pronounced pan-cocky Thats what happens when you bust your eggs all over your pan

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 12:57 PM) #133 on BA, #277 on scout.com, Callis says he doesn't think he'll stick as catcher, more of a left-fielder, former supplemental first-rounder If he's the guy on the couch next to Rodon passing him the bowl then I don't care what position he plays or if he ever makes it at all. My god Hahn is just knocking this thing out of the park. Watch us get a guy 5th round that's over slut, just watch. #3 money goes to Rodon, #4 to Adams and the guy helps negotiations, #5 is a player who #6 pays for. Hahn is just murdering this thing right now. Holy balls. He should have run these drafts a long time ago.

So not only do they go under slut but they get a guy who has handled Rodon's balls, my god what a pick. Hahn is KILLING IT.

anyone following real-time? im watching draft tracker, slow as melton here

were on the cock

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 12:42 PM) That's pretty cool that Rodon's GF is a diehard Sox fan. Lovin it. Yeah but the concern is that if we're giving her boyfriend $6M will he upgrade? Hopefully not, she's cute enough, but those athletes get big heads and stuff.

Fry sounds like a lefty specialist prospect with the upside of a setup man. Will ditch the curve, develop the slider, focus on the change in the Sox system. Hopefully he will sign well under slut. I like the pick in that it looks like a useful player, but I'd have rather punted the ball 4th down instead of 3rd. Oh well, Sox understand the demands of their top 2 more than any of us do, and if they feel they will need the $$$ then good move, do whatever you have to do to get Rodon & Adams signed.

Given the knowledge bomb Hickory Huskers just dropped, I don't see why we'd go underslot at #3. Leave that to the Marlins. Give me Sands at 3 and 4+ can be undersluts I don't care.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) In the first three rounds, if you offer at least 90% of slot value to a pick and he doesn't sign, you get an extra pick in next year's draft to make up for it. If the Sox only offer their 3rd round pick $100K and he doesn't sign, they will not get an extra pick next year to make up for it. Okay thank you. So this doesn't matter after Round 3 because no matter what we wouldn't get a pick back anyway. Got it.

Hey bucket if you're in this thread, were there any indications that teh Sox talked to the Marlins about that pick they pissed away?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:38 AM) But if you aren't within 90% and they don't sign to you lose shot at a compensation pick? ^Someone please answer this one. I'm confused as to how this thing all works. We need $$$ for our 1 & 2, and I'd like an overslot guy at #11, how do we make this work?

I just hope the next time the Marlins want to piss away a comp balance pick on an underwhelming relief pitcher they call us first. I can't believe that Hahn wouldn't hvae beaten that package. I just can't.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:32 AM) No you don't have to offer within 90%. The Sox 3rd rounder is slotted at like $700k. They could easily draft a HS senior in rd 3 and pay him $100,000.00 if they wanted. Okay that's awesome.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:14 AM) As long as they don't go after total allotment, they are OK. The first dollar they go over starts a 75% fine. If they get more than 5% over their total allotment, then starts the draft pick losses. The Sox total this year is $9,509,700, meaning they could go $475,484 over their allotment, or $9,985,184, before they lose a draft pick. If they spent their full allotment they could go over, without hitting 5%, the true cost to the organization would be $832,097, including the fines. We shouldn't be worried about the fines, in fact that should become commonplace given the habits of the big market teams and the need for small market teams to compete with them in the draft. But the draft pick losses definitely need to be avoided, because those are pool losses as well.

Okay so I am confused about the bonus rules here. Someone before posted that we have to offer 90% value of a given slot or we lose the pick. 1) Is this true? 2) If so, do we *have* to offer 90% slot value to the player we select with that pick, leaving the 10% sum for overslots? 3) If the above is not true, could we theoretically offer 10% slot value to the player we select, then offer 50% of the value to our #1 and the 40% remaining to our #2? So we can go up to but not over $100K on every pick from 11 on, and we also have an overage. So theoretically if we get enough underslot guys we can take BPA at #11 and use leftover pool money plus our overage, assuming we have pool money available?