Everything posted by ChiSox59
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 07:23 AM) Bob Nightengale ✔ @BNightengale Be interesting to see if #WhiteSox pay Adam LaRoche a portion of salary; The Mets are paying Michael Cuddyer $3.5 million upon retirement. I feel like Rick wouldn't have acted as surprised if this was the case. He seemed sincerely unaware that LaRoche was contemplating retirement.
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (coco1997 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 05:52 AM) I don't really understand the Morneau talk. As I see it, with LaRoche gone, the Sox now have four outfielders fighting for three starting spots, plus the DH position, and that's not counting whoever makes the team as the fourth outfielder (Shuck or Sands). So that would be Jackson in CF, Eaton in RF/LF and either Cabrera or Garcia in RF/LF with the other acting as the team's primary DH. Unless Avi gets moved, where would Morneau fit on the roster? DH against RHP, something Avi isn't very good at.
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:16 PM) Justin Morneau will never sign with the White Sox, ever. Even if we were the last team on Earth. Not happening. Why do you keep saying this? I bet he'd sign with the Sox over sitting out a year, even if he didn't like the team for whatever reason.
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 02:02 PM) To DH is a possibility, I'm saying outfield-wise, Melky will be in LF only. Gotcha.
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) They aren't moving Melky out of LF; Eaton is the one who will move around. ? I think Melky is the pretty logical one to move to DH, especially if they somehow find a LH OF.
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) Better with than without him ? Disagree, but we'll never know if he would have helped or hurt. Could be a huge blessing . Morneau could probably be had for Latos money and that leaves money for the trade deadline. Despite missing most of last season Morneau came back to hit .338 with a .423 OBP in 78 AB's in Sept/Oct. Doesn't have the power he used to but still hits righties very good and isn't terrible against lefties. He would be the obvious choice except for injury history. Also an .835 career OPS at the Cell. And it would really piss off Twins fans. I am cool with Morneau on a $2-3M deal. Still have lots of money to play with at the deadline or for the draft.
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 01:22 PM) "Like with Cuddyer’s retirement, it almost certainly comes with a buyout, so he’s actually not walking away from that much money. In other words, LaRoche probably chose something like $5-10 million to be home with his kids over $12 million to sit on the bench." From the comments section on a Fangraphs article, so the Sox may not be getting back as much money as expected from this decision. I kind of doubt the Sox were offering something like that.
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 12:38 PM) Who's our backup 1B now? Honest question. DH will no doubt be a rotation, something along the lines of Eaton/Melky/Avi, in addition to Frazier and Abreu, probably. Frazier can play 1B. Avila can play 1B. Saladino can play 1B. Sands can play 1B. I'm not worried about it. Any of the other infielders count play 1B.
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Adam LaRoche retires
QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Mar 15, 2016 -> 12:34 PM) Doubt many will agree with me but unless we do something.. this hurts us. He was an OBP bounceback candidate for us. He had a more reasonable bounceback possibility than Garcia, who has no track record (vs righties) to bounce back to, really I agree with this. I was expecting LaRoche to be decent this year. But if they reallocate this $13M to a LH power bat....I am more interested. Ethier would look good as the Sox RF/DH!
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What to make of Avi's start
Avi's spot on the roster looks safer now.
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Adam LaRoche retires
Wow. First reaction is I hope he and his family are OK. Second reaction is we have $13M to spend.
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Official 2016 Soxtalk White Sox win total prediction thread
I went 87. But wouldn't be surprised with a 5 game swing either way. Hopefully the right way.
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Spring training 3/8: brewers vs White Sox 2:05 start
Love what little I've seen of Avi this spring. Looks like a man on mission.
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White Sox Sign Austin Jackson
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 6, 2016 -> 09:19 PM) Looks like AAA outfield will be Daniel Fields, Jacob May and Sands/Shuck (if JB doesn't end up catching on with another org)...MAYBE Avi if they keep Sands to DH with LaRoche? Leury Garcia and Sanchez as infielders, among others. Thanks for the depth chart update.
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White Sox Sign Austin Jackson
Do wonder if this creates LaRoche / Avi platoon, or if Avi still gets plenty of starts in the OF and Melky to DH more often.
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OF Options
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 3, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) All you need to know about Hahn's comments is this, they supposedly stretched the budget for Jimmy Rollins, who, if he sucks in spring training, they owe nothing but the same contract they just gave Loe. It's all just words. Hahn has said they were looking at and needed OF help. He will get one. Just watch, and Uncle Jer will be his competitive self and OK the "stretching of the budget". I would have loved if they signed any of the FA, including Fowler and Desmond, especially if Desmond could play the OF. But they can still upgrade. I am w/ you. I obviously would have loved to see Cespedes or Gordon or Upton, but I am not going to lose sleep over it. Avi is nothing special, but he still has some upside and clearly the Sox aren't ready to cut bait after 1 full season of at bats, and I am OK with that. I'd love to see them add another guy, but I am OK with them giving Avi one more chance, because he could become the type of player you can live with in the OF due to his bat.
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OF Options
QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 2, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) I'm starting to think we may not see an addition until towards the end of ST when teams such as Houston, Tampa and Oakland have a better idea of who they want to keep for their 25 man roster. At this point, you sort of have to assume the Sox want to give Avi everyday at bats in RF. Otherwise someone would have been signed by now.
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Our Defense is Still Bad
QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 1, 2016 -> 05:33 PM) I don't know. Maybe Frazier if we threw in another prospect. (and yes, we would have had to bring in another team). Or maybe a better LF or RF. Thompson was no hole in CF. Try again. Take a look at Thompsons career minor league numbers. He was a bum w a good glove. He'll be a 4th outfielder in the big leagues, or be out of the game. The Sox sold high on him. Trading one of the few good offensive peices we had last year (Eaton) is not the way to improve the offense.
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Our Defense is Still Bad
I hope Lawrie turns out to be better than "BAD" at 2B. I think he has it in him to be average to slightly above average with the glove. He was considered a great defensive 3B early in his career.
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Ian Desmond Signs 1 Year 8M Deal with Rangers
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) Regarding the bolded, just to keep pointing this out: UZR in the 2015 season: Ian Desmond: -3.7 Jimmy Rollins: -6.8 Defensive runs saved: Ian Desmond: 1 Jimmy Rollins: -8 Yeah Rollins has been better in previous years but he's graded as a below average fielder 3 of the last 4 years, which isn't surprising for a SS in his late 30s. At the very least, if "due to his defense" is a reason not to be interested in Desmond, that reason should apply equally to Rollins. Yeah, I guess I don't really expect Rollins to start more than half the games at SS. I expect Saladino to get a fair amount of time there, and he should, so I am not going to get wound up about Rollins D. I don't watch the Dodgers much, so I can't really speak to his D, but I am guessing he's still pretty good out there, just has limited range (compared to when he was younger) and not as much on his throws as he used to.
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Ian Desmond Signs 1 Year 8M Deal with Rangers
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 29, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) I think his bat is fine, but the bat is what makes him far more valuable at short (and it isn't like he's an awful defender). Which is why I presume we could have gotten him for 1Yr 8M and played him at short. Now he may look at the Rangers environment and how hitters have excelled and view it as a way for him to get back on track offensively and then he can slide back in a year from now. However, every decision Ian has made from a contractual perspective has been awful (from turning down his mega deal to turning down his qualifying offer, he has made brutal decisions and/or gotten brutal advice). Boras (who I think is representing him) normally doesn't miss, but what Ian has done has to be the most brutal whiff in player history ever (thus far...maybe he mashes and gets a huge offer a year from now) but I feel bad for the guy. He's lost just a massive amount of money because of his contract decisions. I have a hard time feeling bad for a guy making $8M to play baseball for a year. I am surprised by the way Desmond went with this whole deal. I thought he'd accept to QO. I didn't think he'd accept an offer to play in the OF. It really cuts down on his value - his bat can make him one of the better all around SS in the league if he bounces back to his career norms. In the OF, its a different story. I too am a little shocked he couldn't find an everyday SS job. I am also shocked that the Sox weren't interested in the cost was only $6M more than Rollins. But someone (Merkin I believe) said that the Sox were never really interested in Desmond due to his defense. But on a one year deal, even with a team option for next year in case Anderson isn't ready in 2017, it made a lot of sense. But oh well, I am fine with where things are. I actually want to see Saladino out there at SS most days.
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OF Options
QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 28, 2016 -> 07:46 PM) He isn't, but he's better than Avi for sure. Defensively, by far. Offensively, they're similar but Avi has much more upside. I still think the Sox will bring in another OF, but I won't be disappointed if it's not Jackson.
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OF Options
Austin Jackson isn't very good at baseball. He's not the difference between the Sox being a playoff team or not.
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Callis breaks down Sox top prospects
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 02:24 PM) http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/165...spects-revealed Actually, it was Jim Callis not Merkin.
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OF Options
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 25, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) It isn't really "everyday" though. Most teams have one left starter, MAYBE two. The AL Central lefty starters are pretty much all White Sox. Ugh. You get the point. He's not a guy you want to run out there against LHP.