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QUOTE (Tony @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) Logic tells me what we thought all along that Williams was simply falling on the sword for a number of people in the organization that didn't have the stones to make a fuss. However, the Sox clearly are not capable of pulling off something like with any sort of grace. It was totally botched. There are 29 other teams that would be happy to have you.

QUOTE (Elgin Slim @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 05:20 PM) I was just venting. I know that it was a poor post. Funny looking back at it. Not happy about the s***storm that this has become, a little worried about the team after this . If anyone can make fathom look like an optimist it is me. : Haha, fair enough.

I voted media. This is close to a non story if they don't blow it out of proportion. But LaRoche should have just cut back brining his son to the ballpark a couple times a week. Thankfully, he didn't, and the Sox now have $13M to invest in their ball club they didn't have a few days ago. The people saying this is the death kneel for this team, or for Sale and / or Eatons time on the Sox are reacting similarly to Sale. With their gut reactions and not their minds. This whole thing is beyond silly - and honestly, I cannot comprehend some of the ridiculous and stupid stuff I read in that Laroche to Retire thread.

QUOTE (Elgin Slim @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) I think anyone who supported LaRoche is going to be gone, whether before OD, around the TDL or this offseason. Sale and Eaton especially. IMO this will start the scorched earth rebuild. 2016 is a failure before it even started IMO. They are going to quit on the management, and it would not surprise me if Sale sticks it to the Sox by complaining of either Injury or just jakes the season. I think the Sox know that and it would not surprise me if Sale is NOT the OD starter, and instead is elsewhere on 4/4. Ugh. Where do you people get this? These types of posts are just embarassing.

QUOTE (Downtown518 @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Or an ultimatum was issued after LaRoche falied to comply with original request. Seems most logical. KW probably snapped when AL ignored his original request. Still think KW Is in the right in all of this - but perhaps should have let Robon handle. In the day, gets a below Replacement level player off of the team and gives the White Sox $13 million to play with. After the dust settles that can be considered nothing but a good thing.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:22 PM) It's like going to the dentist. It hurts now, but in a week or so, the Sox will be fine and will theoretically have $13 million to play with. This is the only thing I've actually agreed with you typing since this started.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) Carlos Rodon stands up slowly, looks around...."You're all being p*****s." Sits back down. Puts a dip in. POTY. Add a "this is f***ing stupid" intro and I think you nailed it.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) Purdue lost!!!! BIg 10 sucks.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) I'd like Don Cooper to do 5 minutes on this topic... That would be excellent!

QUOTE (skooch @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:03 PM) On the bright side ... MLB WAR Leaders: 1. LaRoche, Drake (CWS) +1.4 2. Trout, Mike (LAA) 0.0 2. Harper, Bruce (WAS) 0.0 2. Cabrera, Miguel (DET) 0.0 2. Donaldson, Josh (TOR) 0.0 Well played!!

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) Well, the slim chance of Sale coming back to the Sox after his contract is up has officially bit the dust. Dear lord.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 01:27 PM) The Braves went to the playoffs 15 years in a row with Booby Cox banning kids. Get rid of all of them. You're all over the place man.

This is literally the dumbest thing ever. Just retire, and make a corresponding move so we can move on. So many blowhard comments in this thread it's almost comical. One poster in particular.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) I would bet there is a guy Drake LaRoche's age or younger around the Sox clubhouse 162 games this season even if LaRoche sticks with retiring. If it was so burdensome, why was this addressed in March of 2016, 13 months after this has been going on? Dude, take a chill pill. You complain about everything - step away from the computer and have a beer!!

If they eat all but $20M, and Hanley agrees to forgo the vesting option. Otherwise, no thanks. Also not the LH bat we need.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 02:18 PM) Again, you're just ignoring my explanation and are completely misinterpreting my stance. Taking me out of context and telling me to chill, saying "smh" (these aren't you, just examples) doesn't make sense when I agree with you guys. You have a way of over reacting to minor things.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) Our organization looks horrible now. Great SMH

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) Nobody in history has ever been more right about anything. Can you post for those of us that cannot see?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) I dont think what they did was wrong, but there will be the riteous writers who will rail against it. I think allowing it in the first place was wrong, though True, but its the world we live. People will b**** about anything. Anyone who understands the game will understand why the White Sox did what they did.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) I dont think what they did was wrong, but there will be the riteous writers who will rail against it. I think allowing it in the first place was wrong, though True, but its the world we live. People will b**** about anything. Anyone who understands the game will understand why the White Sox did what they did.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:11 PM) right or wrong, the Sox are gonna look bad Disagree. MLB clubhouse is no place for a kid.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) I wouldn't want a kid in the clubhouse if I were a ML player. If I'm in a room of adults, I'm gonna talk and swear like one. I don't want kids around to hear that or for them to be around to restrict me from expressing myself. I agree. I could see how this would be super annoying to other teammates.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:58 PM) I really have no issue with either side of this. The White Sox have every right to make a rule against children if they feel it affects winning baseball games. If family is that important to LaRoche and he would rather walk away from the game and the money, then that's his business, he has every right to. Yup. See ya later, Adam.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:08 PM) As I said in the other thread, I don't recall seeing that management tried talking him out of it, it was his teammates. I recall Rick saying he sat down with AL for a couple hours and tried to understand his decision but that his mind was just made up. Just doesn't seem likely, but I suppose possible. Now maybe the Sox told him that he's gonna sit on the bench the whole season, and he didn't want to do that, but I also find that a little hard to believe since he has a pretty clear role (assuming he isn't seriously injured). EDIT: DA summarized the quotes in the other AL thread.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) That is the way that most are taking it, and the most likely meaning. Why do something to force him to retire, and then allow the team to try to talk him out of it? Just doesn't add up.