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Before the start of the 71 season Roland and Chuck Tanner (since they worked together) had acquired Mike Andrews, Luis Alvarado, Jay Johnstone, Rick Reichardt, Tom Egan, Tom Bradley, Vicente Romo, Steve Kealy and Ed "the Creeper" Stroud. Almost a complete rebuild overnight. Then you add in the talent the Sox already had in Melton, May, Ed Herrmann, Wilbur Wood and Tommy John and that's how you go from 56 wins to 79.

On the postgame show last night Garfien was openly promoting the idea of the Sox signing him to play third and bat in the group with Jimenez and Jose'. Melton was a little skeptical because of his injury history.

He along with a number of other guys on the 40 man roster need to be sent as far away from the organization as possible.

That was his birth name but he went by Joe. Unfortunately Joe now is in a nursing home in San Antonio where because of Alzheimer's he doesn't remember much about his playing days.

You should ask the PA guy about that...I would.

And so was Joe Horlen, Gary Peters, Walt Williams, Carlos May, Wilbur Wood and ken Berry.

He'll be around but whether he can actually play is an entirely different matter. And his history says the odds are he'll get hurt again.

I'd agree except the umpires union has a lot of power, how else do you thinks stiffs like Joe West, C.V. Bucknor, Angel Hernandez keep their jobs?

The Bears have basically been a joke on and off the field since the end of the 1991 season. A good season here and there but basically Cincinnati Bengals bad over the course of 25 years. Nothing changed tonight and they had a golden opportunity to start writing a new script. Instead they fell flat on their faces.

Regarding Rodon probably not as long as Scott Boras is his agent.

The Dodgers of course because of a loaded farm system and an open checkbook haven't been impacted as much though because of those injuries. They have the resources and the will to buy their way out of those issues.

Did Hendricks or Kuechel have Scott Boras as their agent? This isn't hard to understand in my opinion. Boras takes his guys to FA. If Rodon pitches well he'll command a deal far beyond what this current ownership has ever done. Do you risk losing Rodon for absolutely nothing? Or do you trade him when you can still get something for him?? Now if new ownership is in place that changes the dynamic. Who knows what new ownership would be willing to do.

South: I can tell you from the Sox media guide that last year they were slightly above the major league average in times using the DL and a lot higher than league average in days missed to injury for what that may be worth to you. The second point means that the injuries they were getting weren't just bruises or ankle twists, they were of a more serious nature.

It's actually been longer than that although the past few seasons that has gone up dramatically for them according the Sox media guide.

The two main issues are worthwhile discussing since they seem to be impacting the rebuild: 1. Is the same front office that drove the franchise into the ditch it is now in capable of fixing the damage they did? 2. Given the past three seasons worth of injuries at the major and minor league level is there something that may be missing now from a training / conditioning standpoint? If you can't keep the guys you are counting on to anchor the rebuild healthy at all levels (including the major leagues) you have a serious issue. It is still to early to call the rebuild a success or a failure. The next two years, I think, will help determine that. If at the end of the 2020 season the Sox are still floating around the 60-65 win mark, then ownership (whomever that may be) is going to have to make a decision on the future of the front office and the direction this team needs to go in, in my opinion. I had hoped for some real improvement in the won/lost column in 2019, not contention, not a winning season but real improvement. I'm afraid now that doesn't seem like a real possibility.

A while. (Assuming Dunning and Hansen are actually healthy)

It's been cloudy for over a decade now with no end in sight apparently.

Shocked. Nothing much to say. Typical White Sox luck. Injuries have gutted this organization now for three straight years. I think the only thing that turns around the bad "karma" is to can the front office (since the owner isn't going anywhere), start over and hope for the best. Just sick right now hearing this.

Different ballpark I'd assume...different league certainly and perhaps most importantly a different pitching coach. Or it could just be blind luck.

Given the weather this game either should not have been played at all of the kid shouldn't have been brought back out there even though the first delay wasn't to long.

Speaking of Dodgers, don't know if anyone saw this. There was a tweet out over the weekend that I caught where Machado said he'd be willing to move back to 3rd base next year depending on the needs of the team he signs with.

Not saying he does. My point is no one knows anything about what is going on. Sox aren't saying, much like Rodon's issues over a year and a half. Turned out he did need surgery. I was just hoping he could pitch so the Sox would know one way or the other if surgery is actually needed. With him not pitching the Sox really don't know his status until he gets back on a mound I'm assuming next February. And I recall a post from PTATC where he said (paraphrasing) that the majority of these injuries progress to the point where surgery is usually necessary. Don't recall the specific comment but that was the gist of the post as I recall.)

Hahn at his press conference today said Dunning is making progress and no surgery is being discussed at this point. That's all I saw, he didn't elaborate on what exactly there were doing or what he was doing. It appears he's not going to be pitching for awhile. We'll see what happens in the spring, if they are wrong it will cost them about six months of potential rehab by not doing the surgery immediately. We'll see.

Nice to see them play well on a big day before a very nice crowd. If I recall correctly they lost on Konerko's day, Buehrle's day, Thome's day and the 10th anniversary celebration for the 2005 team.

Nate Jones NEVER seems to be healthy, that's just the way he is historically. I'd rather give a kid a shot or sign someone myself.