Jose Abreu

Does this mean anything?

moncada

I'm glad you guys are getting your laughs but that's not what we're arguing. About 72 games (for this season and some of next April) times about 4.2 PA/G (White Sox hitters average 4.15 PA/G, and since Jimenez would likely bat somewhere 3-5, he would average more. I'm being generous by only adding the .05) is 303 PAs that Jimenez is not getting at the MLB level. He's not gonna be a bust or bad player because he isn't getting that experience, but he also is not getting any better by not getting that experience. It's a significant amount of playing time.

Why is Nick Madrigal still in Kanny? This is pretty long for a rehab stint

It's not that I don't want to slow him down, it's that I want him to improve. You can't just remove a month from the equation because he usually doesn't play during it. Playing him in September (and August, and April) in the big leagues would do nothing to slow him down.

I think this is the point that is being lost. We aren't talking about a couple weeks in September or 11 days in April, we're talking about 2.5 months of baseball, about half a season, and the player in question is making a joke out of minor league baseball. In all the examples that have been brought up, nobody has been as "ready" as Eloy, in my opinion. Springer and Bryant had major strikeout issues. Lindor and Correa weren't doing that well at AAA.

That's his entire year slash though. In AAA specifically he was at .273/.307/.388, a .695 OPS. If Eloy had a .695 OPS right now I would not be clamoring for him to be called up.

Aside from Acuna and Springer, those guys were not good at AAA. Totally different situations

But Lindor and Correa weren't exactly setting the world on fire in AAA

My bad. Either way, I wouldn't put those on the same scale as the Quintana trade. Of course, Sosa became Sosa in hindsight, but in terms of future impact spread out among both teams, this trade has more potential

Machado

John 1:49 So you’re saying you’d rather have Eloy in the majors for the rest of this season and next April instead of having him for the 2025 season? Why? Keith Law 1:50 2025? Where will you be then? What kind of team will the White Sox be at that point? Who's the GM? The owner? Meanwhile, if you have a player whose development appears to require a promotion to the majors, you're merely wasting time if you leave that guy in the minors. (I feel more strongly this way with pitchers, since projecting any pitcher to stay healthy for seven years is like playing roulette with a crooked croupier.)

Pat 1:11 How many more boxes does Eloy have to check? Is this a service time game Rick Hahn is playing? Keith Law 1:11 What service time game? If he's not calling Jimenez up now, he'd have to wait until mid-April next year. That's a long time to stall a guy's development just to get an extra year of control at some point after the world ends.

The long-term contractual commitment is an asset. If we feel that Anderson isn't the guy for whatever reason, he'd be easy to trade. Most teams want cheap, long-term contracts for guys who can hold their own at shortstop.

If they get 2-3 solid MLB regulars in Moncada, Kopech, and Basabe, they definitely do not unless you have some arbitrary idea in your head that we must only trade Sale for bona fide stars. Trading Sale for 6-7 years each of 2-3 solid regulars would actually be a massive win for us.

The Sox would never enter a full-scale, proper rebuild. Then they did. They'd also never make a major, franchise-altering trade with the Cubs. Then they did. I definitely get the impression that Hahn takes these "the White Sox would never _____" comments as a challenge. Now it's that the Sox would never sign a stud free agent to a record-breaking contract. We'll see about that in the next couple offseasons.

It was a good article but it ignored the, in my opinion, pretty important factor that is their development, and whether keeping them down when they're both clearly ready can hurt it. They're gonna need time to adjust to the MLB level and I think getting a taste of it now could be very beneficial for them both.

I actually agree with the rule but I think he overuses it in situations where it's not necessary. I don't think Anderson deserved to be benched for this one. If you're gonna bench a guy for not hustling, you should consider all the factors involved with the play

At least he took it well. I think the problem with that written description is that it discounts the very likely event that had Anderson ran and been safe, video review would've overturned it since the ball was actually caught on the fly.

Yes, it is misleading. Anderson lined out to third but the umpire (incorrectly) ruled that it was a ground ball, so he had stopped running and the third baseman threw him out at first. Had Anderson ran it out and been safe, they would've just overturned it via video review since the ball was caught. If Renteria expects players to keep running when balls are clearly caught then we're gonna look foolish on the basepaths.

... Did you watch the play?

The same Fangraphs that didn't consider Dylan Cease a top 130 prospect as of a month ago (yes I know they've since changed it)? I don't know what happened but it seems like they've gotten really lazy this year.

Accidentally posted in trade winds instead of PHT. Can a mod please move?