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Not at all. My comment was " My point is that JR may not see it that way since financially the rebuild has been a success despite poor attendance. The question is JR more concerned about revenue or wins/losses. We will find out. I actually think at his age, JR may not care how much he makes since it is probably monopoly money at this point. Hence my last sentence "we will find out". But Jerry will be 85 in 2021 so I would not be surprised if he steps down or sells by then.

Someone in the FO reads this message board.

If you read what I said, I actually think it supports my argument. KW arrived in 2000 and Paxson in 2003. KW's teams have played( and won) in one World Series. Paxson's teams have never made the NBA finals. Yet both have their jobs. It may be loyalty, or business success but their longevity is not based primarily on the field/court success. So one more time, with JR's track record, I do not assume that " if we don't see progress by 2020 heads should roll" .

No, unless you are in JR's inner circle. Suppose JR is getting ready to sell off the team? Then a low payroll is a solid selling point. Hopefully it is a coincidence that the White Sox and Bulls have both gone into rebuild mode and both have their lowest salaries in years.

You missed the point. A poster said if we don't see progress by 2020 heads should roll. My point is that JR may not see it that way since financially the rebuild has been a success despite poor attendance. The question is JR more concerned about revenue or wins/losses. We will find out.

Lets keep in mind, this is a business first and foremost. As fans we are all thinking the success/failure of the rebuild is ultimately wins/losses. But there is also the profit margin. Is JR's priority the win/loss record or the revenue stream. KW has survived through some lean win/loss years so maybe the success of the rebuild to fans is different than to JR. At his age, hopefully money is an afterthought and he is desperate for a winner like all of us.

Actually I would say the Yankees did a rebuild after 2013. Other than Gardner and CC, they literally gutted the roster, saw guys like Pettitte, Rivera and Jeter retire and fired the manager. Boston has also done the equivalent of a rebuild after the 2014 season. But both organizations had good minor league talent, traded major league talent and had money to spend on FA talent. On the flip side, both those organizations drafted that good minor league talent in years where they were not drafting with high picks. So I will assume their scouting/minor league instructors did good jobs.

The key to being a good GM is not their athletic ability but their managerial ability. A good GM surrounds himself with good managers in the FO and in the field. Hopefully Hahn has done that.

You have 3-50% choices instead of 2 . What you did forget is he also has a chance to get worse. With his 467 plate appearances this year he has just about double last year's. He is down % wise in almost every category except stolen bases. Without a surge down the strecth, he will regress this season.

I live in New England and I hear little or nothing about the trade. Basically Sale has been a stud this season but the media is still having a wait and see approach to his ability to still be a stud in October. What I find amazing is that there seems to be zero Sale talk outside the lines. Nothing . Maybe he has matured since reaching Boston. Always David Price media spats but Sale is very silent.

Luckily I think Gallo still has a higher SO% since he has played less games. But it is turning into a 2 horse race for the record book.

If that is the case, then why has Anderson only batted 26% in the 1st or 2nd spot? It seems like they want more ABs for Moncada but not for Anderson. I think Anderson should bat 1st , Moncada 2nd and see if Moncada shows some improvement. Maybe it would lose him 1 AB a week.

I understand that is supposedly the reason. But why is Anderson not batting 2nd to get him the most PA as possible?. Also, last year Moncada had more success batting 2nd (.265) over the other spots in the order. Why not drop Moncada to 2nd and see if he shows any improvement?

I think Sept call-ups in the AL this season will be affected by the pennant races. Too many teams will be assured playoff spots or out of contention. There will be a ton of AL games with small crowds and many AAA players, so the "MLB" experience" may be tainted.

At this stage I am amazed he is still leading off. I know he is dropped down when a lefty is pitching, but maybe the kid needs to bat lower in the order just to see if it helps. Even move him to 2nd where he had the most success last year.

or something is getting lost in the translation...........................

A-Rod said last night that their team was always drained after a series w Red Sox so they often struggle in the next series. After their weekend performance, they may need steroids to compete against the Sox.

I posted " Every playoff team uses free agency to supplement the farm system and trades". That is 3 ways. Saying we should not use free agency because of the fear of bad contracts limits you.

The whole point of this rebuild is to be a playoff team. Every playoff team uses free agency to supplement the farm system and trades. Yes the big contract can turn out to be a bust but so can trading away valuable prospects for players and so can draft picks.

Bad comparison. You have to look at the big picture. When we finally become relevent, Hahn will get to show his ability to sign and trade for impact players. The Red Sox and Yankees are having outstanding seasons and a couple of their FA signings are the reason i.e Martinez and Stanton. Price, to me, is a bust considering the contract but Porcello is a stud. Tanaka is 61-30 in 5 years w Yanks. Cashman may have overpaid but his performance has been solid. When we join the big boys, signing free agents and trading for impact players will be like prospects some hits some misses.

Not sure that is a good comparison. Dombrowski came in from another organization. But from a rebuild standpoint, he went into a new organization in Fla. and they played in the World Series in his 5th year. He then went into Detroit and they played in the World Series in Year 5. I am not sure how you judge Hahn. He was promoted to "GM" in 2013. But he started the rebuild in 2017. So Hahn can be criticized for starting the rebuild 3-4 years too late. That is assuming he had the power to do so. But if we want to compare him from a rebuild standpoint to Dombrowski, then he should have the 2021 team in the World Series.

Just a little history. Moncada in his first season in Cuba minors was a 3B but was eventually moved to 2nd. When signed by Red Sox, he was projected to play 2nd , 3B or corner outfield. Ironically, when he played A ball , the Red Sox top 3 prospects were he(#1) Devers(#2 )and Benintendi (#3). Then in AA when the Red Sox saw his progress , they moved him to 3B ( despite Devers being a year behind him) because Sandoval had flopped. Obviously he struggled at 3B. When he came to the White Sox they immediately moved him back to 2B. I don't see the White Sox moving him to 3B again since twice in his young career he was moved away from 3B. Maybe corner outfield if Madrigal forces the issue.

Agree, and if he is ready next year, that is a good problem to have.

I think it is too early to say that. I watch Benintendi all the time and he is a stud. He looks to be a .280 20 HR 30 SB 100 RBI guy. But Moncada has a higher ceiling. The big question is whether he makes it. At the time of the trade, Benintendi 's value was rising and Moncada's was falling after their showing during the pennant race. I think for Sale, Boston would have done either but Benintendi was in a position they needed more than an infielder so the trade probably worked better for them than if they kept Moncada. In Fenway, I think Moncada would have another 4-5 HR this year.

Just me, but I don't think Stephens will be up next year. I think younger guys will pass him based on his showing in Charlotte.