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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 06:14 PM) Doubt Texas would do that. Heard more likely to be Brinson than Gallo. They just lost fielder so they maybe desperate

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 09:59 AM) This organization is starting to draft better the past few seasons. I think they could sell high on some guys and do well. The key would be the lesser known guys they scout and how many they could hit on. I'm down on Hahn and have gone back and forth. I just don't want them to buy. I think they could move guys like Melky, Frazier and Robertson and do well at the deadline. Then wait til offseason to move the one or both of the main studs. Not sure Sale would want to be part of a rebuild. Q might be more willing and you would get a better package from Sale so moving Sale might be the better option if you don't move both. Ideally, you should move both. I'm just speaking hypothetically about if Sale would or wouldn't want to be part of the rebuild obviously. If the Sox are going to move the likes of frazier, melky, Robertson, etc they should go into full rebuild. Sox dont have anyone internally that can really fill those positions. saladino would either play 3rd or Lawrie gets moved there and saladino goes to 2nd. Im not sold on saladino being a every day player especially if you are tryng to contend. outfield would be eaton, shuck and Garcia till jackson comes back. Thats not very good. Mostly likey jackson is gone after this season and probably so is garcia. Thats 2 spots to fill and next yrs free agent class isnt good. Sale has stated he wants to win and i highly doubt he wants to sit through a rebuild for whats left of his contract with the sox. Frazier, melk and Robertson should bring back prospects but not the quality or quantity sale, Quintana or even abreu would command. If they start selling go full rebuild, dont half do it

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 08:31 AM) I wondered this morning if the media and fan pressure will sway the Sox FO in what they are going to do next. Historically they seem to be pretty reactionary and do pay careful attention to all that stuff. Ya last year im sure most fans wanted to sell off and they had worst record then this year and they still tried to add. Dont think fans or media have any indication on what which direction the team should go. Its up to jerry and he wants to win so they will probably try to add

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 02:35 PM) Cub fans are just dying to see the Sox "blow it up" and become bottom dwellers for the forseeable future. Admit it if that is what you want to see. The fact is that not every team that fails to make the playoffs is going to blow it up, try to get the highest Draft pick by having the worst record in baseball, and hope a budding star is available with that high pick that will turn the whole franchise around. The suggestion to trade Sale is a non-starter. He is a franchise player which means his value supersedes hos value on the field. His name is on countless fans jerseys and he has become synonymous with the White Sox. He ain't goin' nowhere. And neither is Quintana, Rodon Fulmer or Nate Jones. The pitching core stays for stability of the team and the franchise. Sale will be going somewhere after the 2019 season. Thats three and half ish years. Sox dont give out large contracts and long ones so i really dont see them keeping sale. So thats means probably dealt sometime before hand to get something for him then let him walk for nothing

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) Castro seems like a fair return If you are talking about Jason castro that would be stupid since hes a free agent at the end of the year. Include someone else and just sign castro in offseason

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2016 -> 10:30 PM) Fire Steverson...no excuse, this offense sucks Been saying this for the past year

Frazier is a homer or nothing guy. At least has good defen

Man thats splitter is just messing up the guys

Fulmer warming

QUOTE (Footlongcomiskeydog @ Jul 16, 2016 -> 09:59 PM) Navarro should't even be on the roster. I hope he is released once Avila is back from the dl. And have a guy that cant stay healthy being your main catcher. Thats smart

Worse part is if they dont score or win tonight then can kiss this series totally good bye with weaver pitching tomorrow

Morneau cant buy a hit

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2016 -> 09:43 PM) Any idea where he ranked the previous two years Not sure. Stone rattled that stat off when he was batting. Have noticed hes horrible with swinging at strikes down and away

Abreu has chased 306 pitches out of the strike zone and leads the majors in that category. He needs to adjust that or hes going to get worse

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2016 -> 09:30 PM) The farm system is bottom ten for sure Their top draft picks under hahn from 2013-2015 are in the majors right now for the team.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) And they keep having to trade for guys because they miss on nearly all of their free agent signees. Because the sox have a owner whos making money anf limits how much a payroll they have

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 16, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) Hahn needs to get fired after this year. Just can't build a winning team or build up the farm system. Hahn was given a crap of a team and minors to deal with and still has to go through the former gm of the team and a aging owner who probably cant live to see a rebuild. Hahn is stuck in a rock and hard place

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 16, 2016 -> 09:14 PM) They will lose if they sell. For maybe a long time. Trading Sale doesnt = winning baseball. Really trading anyone on the roster doesnt equate to more wins. Not in the near future and potentially long term future. Sox havent been winning much with sale on the team. Its not sales fault its not putting a good product around him. The question is when you get to a point if you aren't going to win with sale do you let him walk and get nothing back or better off trading him to get sime that may help.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) I'm not convinced Fulmer will be any better than Gonzalez next year. That doesn't help us improve the team with what little chance this team has to actually make the playoffs in the next few years. The only way the Sox will need Fulmer is if Shields opts out. I think he will be good. You may not be convinced but i am and believe he can be good. Hopefully he proves you wrong over the rest of the season

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 08:28 PM) This is going to kill whatever trade value he has right now. Way too premature to call him up now. If they really see him as a reliever why not give him a few weeks in the AAA pen to make sure he can handle the jump? I was much more confident about Anderson (but slightly concerned about the walk rate going forward) but I don't see this going well for Fulmer his first time around. I guess we are not trading for any impact bats if this means Fulmer is going to stay with the team. Dont think sox would be trading fulmer unless its a true bat thats under control. I've read fulmer is definitely bullpen ready now. Let him get his taste now then getting going into rotation next year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 07:54 PM) It isn't. Carroll's DFA opened up the spot for Turner to come in. False 40 man roster is full. Carroll's spot was taken by fulmer

3-4 now. 2 singles and homer

Ventura said Morneau would face primarily right-handers at the outset, but that of course can change https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/754106412439965696

Collins 2-3 in winston salem with a single and 3 run homer

Rick Hahn said #WhiteSox continue to look for pieces. Knew it would be a difficult market. "It's a strong seller's market." https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/754080280076398592