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QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 11:47 PM) Yep, and that's another factor that'll limit what the Sox can get for Sale. Any GM that does his homework knows that the Sox will need to trade for young position player talent sooner rather than later. I think that Hahn can hold out for another 12 months if he isn't enamored with the current offers (as circumstances change, new opportunities can develop), but I really can't see both Sale and Q on the roster after next year's trade deadline if the Sox aren't competitors at that point. Way too many holes to fill. Unfortunately, Hahn's gona need to rob Peter to pay Paul. Sale may be the guy to go because he can bring back the monster haul. That's if they want to try that route instead of a complete rebuild. Personally, I'd go the complete rebuild route. If ya don't get the deals you want by Monday, hold onto them. Lay the groundwork, like Rosenthal mentioned today. This is the time for that. I believe Rabbit said we talked about trading for Frazier last year around this time. Couldn't make it happen by the deadline so he got the groundwork done. This is my opinion, if they only trade one, it's Sale because of the haul you can get back.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 11:17 PM) The Sox are in the position they're in because they haven't been able to draft/develop offensive talent, not because Kenny and Hahn have been getting swindled in trades. Agreed. We've pretty much all liked the deals recently they just haven't worked out. It's like a black cloud surrounds Hahn.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 11:34 PM) As I've said a bunch of times in several threads, if you look at the contract situations of the team, it lays out really well to "go for it" for one more season. Several of the most expensive core position players come off the books after next year, so if you're primed for an extremely active trade deadline in the event of a failure, and the prices on Sale/Quintana will be essentially the same (or perhaps slightly nearer the neighborhood of "we can actually put a prospect package together that approaches their real value without losing literally the entire farm"). Ok. So lay that plan out for us on how they attack this off-season in a crappy FA market with a bare farm system.

I've just felt in my gut some team is going to say f*** it and go for Sale. Someone of his caliber on the market is insane. You're paying that insane price but for a team like Texas, who has had unhealthy pitchers, to get a guy as durable as Sale would be a giant boost. Insurance on Darvish as well. Texas has to give up Mazara. As Rabbit said, Daniels and Hahn are buddies. I just feel like that's who will ante up. Mazara, Gallo, Profar, Ortiz and Tate for Sale. You could swap out names for the last two. You could also have a multiplayer deal coming from Chicago. Choo is hurt. Maybe a Sale, Melky, Robertson/Jones/Duke goes to Texas and that adds even more pieces coming back plus would give them another bat and reliever. I just have that feeling that we'll be stunned come Monday afternoon.

I'll end tonight on this note. Your move Dombrowski.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 09:52 PM) Ok, this is the ONE instance where I'd say you need to package Robertson with Sale to convince Dombrowski. Please let it be so. And I would say bye bye Sale. Love ya and all you've done for us but that nets us 7 players.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 09:49 PM) I can see Dombrowski getting worried and offering Moncada, Benintendi, Kopech, Devers, Vazquez, Rodriguez, and Shaw. With the Indians making the Lucroy deal, I hope so.

Per Jeff Passan Lucroy has been traded to the Indians. Must approve still.

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) Fair enough. But the overriding points remain: 1. Sale is (currently) too valuable to be traded. 2. Trading just to trade is one reason why this organizationis mired in mediocrity. They're only trading him if they get an overwhelming offer. That's why he hasn't been moved. But to keep sucking and not try something else is silly. I'm not advocating trading him just to trade him but the deal needs to be right. I think it'll be this offseason.

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 09:12 PM) To be honest, while I share your angst in this, the ineptitude of his team mates, his manager, & the front office have little to do with what he is actually worth in trade. Trading just to trade is one way this organization has slid into the crapper. See: Peavey, Swisher, & other vets sold for nothing as examples of this. Disagree on Peavy. He wasn't sold for peanuts. Garcia was a legit prospect that hasn't worked out. Montas became one and helped us land Frazier. Wendelken helped us land Lawrie.

@JonMorosi For now, other clubs believe Chris Sale will stay with #WhiteSox. But a lot can happen between now and 4 pm ET Monday. @MLB

Nice breaking ball

Bunting for Dummies is a book Buxton needs to read

Ynoa he's gona blow this lol

How could you be a contender and not want Melky if ya need a bat? All he does is rake

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 07:59 PM) The 4 game win streak easily could have stalled things. I expect they have picked up though since Thursday I mean with this front office and ownership ya never know Melky!

Right guy right place right time.

QUOTE (Insp @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 07:57 PM) Interesting how once Ventura throws the game away, people show up here in droves............. I've been working all day. Just sat down with a beer. I wasn't showing up to bash him. I'm watching Anderson.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 07:54 PM) I'll been following the game on my phone, saw Albers was in, and then suddenly saw the page count go from 5 to 7 in a matter of minutes. Knew immediately Albers blew the game. Hopefully this is further proof to the front office to sell. They're not in buy mode. They're in sell mode and have been but the offers have to be to their liking. They won't trade for trading.

3 straight hits for Timmy

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 07:51 PM) This game is actually going quite perfectly. Miguel Gonzalez pitches a great game, hopefully getting a team to bite on him, and a meaningless bullpen arm blows the game and gets us a better draft position. Everything is coming up Milhouse! Lol agreed

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 07:49 PM) So Gonzalez is the new Q Q still gets screwed so he's still Q. Gonzalez is just another Q

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 07:42 PM) WHY trade now? If the Sox are out of it as so many of you suggest over and over and over again then why not wait till the off season and take your time. We arent under pressure to trade the contenders are. If they don't give us what we want then we dont trade The hope is to catch these contending teams in desperation.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 06:55 PM) I'm assuming this is the Q trade thread... Just got the ESPN alert on my phone saying the Sox and Rangers are discussing a trade. Hmm...wonder why that would trigger an alert when I haven't gotten any other rumors yet. That's weird. Probably from earlier when there was something about the Rangers asking about Q

The Wade Davis injury certainly will spark DRobs market.