Tony
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Best weekend ever
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The meatball is coming out strong with me right now….I want blood next matchup against the Bucks
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It always seemed to me that Mitch just couldn't process things quick enough and read defenses quick enough but was he coached up at all while here? Was he put in a position to succeed? I was never a huge Mitch guy, and traditionally I always put most of the blame on players, not the coaching staff that isn't actually on the field....but given that Mitch was raw and really needed to be developed while in the NFL, it certainly seems like he was brought into a terrible situation with a HC that was in WAY over his skis.
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Too much smoke at this point, and I 100% trust the reporting of Jahns, Fish, etc. Nagy looks AWFUL right now, and based on what we saw in Fields rookie season, you really have to wonder what Mitch could have been.
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As Q mentioned, I think he's also been dealing with some lingering injuries, but right now it seems like COVID is the reason he is currently out of the lineup. He's very much missed.
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Listen, as I said before they don't deserve any benefit of the doubt at this point so I don't want to totally dismiss it haha, but as Jason said, if Polian was a real candidate, they interview him and don't make him the lead in this committee. Plus my guess is Polian doesn't want to get back into the game as an everyday guy anymore.
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The Bears at this point don't deserve ANY benefit of the doubt.........but they can't go down a road where they are talking to all these candidates that are getting people excited, then turn around and the 79-year-old leading the search ends up giving it to himself.....I just can't fathom that taking place.
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Wrong. They put together a committee that seems like it is headed by Bill Polian, so the next "Top Football Guy" for the Bears will infact be hired by a "football guy."
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I would be a fan of Rick Smith coming on board as well.
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And I agree with you, basically 100%. George has to make the call here, no one argues that. And it's hopefully the last important football decision he has to make in a very long while. But again, in my eyes, using Bill Polian is fine (although I think the game has passed him by in a lot of ways and would have liked a younger name) but then George says the GM and HC will report directly to George. So is George now getting MORE involved with the day-to-day football side of things? There is my issue. Ted should have NO involvement with football (that didn't happen today) and George should put together a committee to find a new Football Ops President, and let that guy and that guy alone report to George, but the GM and HC will report to the Football Ops President (That didn't happen today either.) Instead we got George telling us how pissed Mom is and while they used this same process to hire Emery and Pace...this time it's going to be different.
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No, that's not my point, but it's the reason I'm frustrated with both you and @bmags, because you think the media and fans are being unfair to the Bears and aren't actually listening to the points being made, but instead calling the small, semantical differences when they are anything but. I'll try one more time, then I'm actually done. The Bears have been an absolute mess since George took over in 2011. That's a fact that can't be argued. They have never won a playoff game with him as Chairman. In the case of Ted Phillips, someone who has been CEO since 99, and I believe that's good for 23 years on the job and 6 playoff appearances, none resulting in a Super Bowl. Phillips, has up until this point been responsible for bringing in GM's to this organization since he arrived, and as we noted....hasn't done a very good job. Today, after George fired yet another GM/HC combo, we learned that while Ted will no longer have the GM and HC report to him.....he'll still have a voice in the room and help find the next GM of the Bears. The new GM will now report to George, WHO IN THE SAME PRESS CONFERENCE WAS ASKED TO EVALUATE JUSTIN FIELDS AND HIS RESPONSE WAS "I'M JUST A FAN." I already described what should have taken place. 1. Ted Phillips should be removed from any decision-making when it comes to football. That did not take place as he will have a hand in picking the next GM. That point can't be argued. 2. If George just wants to be a fan that happens to own an NFL team, then he shouldn't have any say in football matters either. As I said earlier, create a team and find a President of Football Ops. Then let that guy go out and find a GM and Coach. You say that's just semantics, but it's anything but. Let's take Ryan Pace for example. Under the current Bears structure, if Pace wanted to bounce ideas off someone, maybe speak to someone a little more veteran than he is.....he had to sit down with Ted and George. That alone is terrifying. Rick and Kenny can talk to each other. Arturas and Eversley can talk to each other. Theo and Jed could talk to each other. But god forbid anyone could be above Ryan Pace...He's got "George The Fan" for advice! Quite frankly you're being incredibly lazy with your takes and effort here. You're coming at me saying: When in reality, that's not what I've been saying at all, and instead YOUR the one who's saying "Well I give George an F for performance but aww shucks, he's the owner, guess there isn't anything else we can expect and I guess we just have to keep rooting for them and hope they luck into winning! Go Bears!" Bullshit.
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You clearly don't judge the Bears on results either.
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We just see things way different. They are doing things the same way they always do. George took over in 2011 and doesn't have a playoff win to his name as Owner. Expect similar results. Enjoy!
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That pesky media, they always get it wrong!
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Thank you for explaining how sports work. That was very helpful for this process.
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This is where you and @bmags aren’t grasping the concept. Today could have been different if George came out and said “We aren’t going to repeat the same process we took with Phil Emery and Ryan Pace. As of today, Ted Phillips no longer has any contact with anything that transpires on the field. He is focused on the Bears as a business. Because of that, we now need to hire a President of Football Operations. That job starts now, and a committee comprised of Bill Polian, Name, Name And Name will be in charge of finding the right person for the job. Ultimately I will hire that person, but once completed, that person will find us the next GM and HC of the Chicago Bears.” That’s how you get fans on your side, give them some hope things are changing. Instead, we literally got the exact same press conference we seem to get every 5-7 years. And you can’t understand why fans and media are upset?
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Then I don’t think you understand what people are upset about. They fired Nagy and Pace. That was the easy part. Anyone could have done that. The issue is after hearing from George and Ted…the process to find the next GM and HC will be the exact same process that they used to find Pace and Nagy. Ted Phillips will once again be involved. Why should any fan expect a different result? The entire organization needs to be re-done. No one expects George to just sell the team. But until he keeps relying on Ted Phillips to have a say in football decisions, this is just another day in Bears Land.
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And the clarity confirms George still has no idea how to run a successful football team.
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Silvy is right. The Bears can't have it both ways (but they'll sure as hell try.) Ted Phillips WILL be involved in hiring the new GM/Coach, but then once they are hired they report to George.
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The guy has a career 48-65 record during his time with the Bears and had 1 season over .500 He never saw his team win a playoff game. He was very bad at this job. But I'm glad @Harold's Leg Lift "gets why he was fired" because it can be tough to understand why......?
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Can't tell if this is a joke or not.
