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Pirates deal unlikely unless they can stay under budget. We thought Jerry was bad, they have a real Scrooge in Pittsburgh.

Wake up everyone!

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 01:23 AM) To be fair, I don't have this type of influence. I tried to make it clear on Twitter, but I never said it was imminent. Just that framework was talked about, the Sox wanted to get something done and the Pirates are serious in their interest of Q. After I tweeted about it, I spoke about the idea if the three way stalled, the Pirates were likely to still make a push for Q. Of course that wasn't as sexy as that three way deal so it doesn't get the play. There is reason to believe the Yankees are/were the hold up though. I should note that both Bruce Levine and Carmen DeFalco (spelling?, Idk) had acknowledged today that they had heard of the same three way framework. I have heard it from two different, unrelated, trusted sources that the deal was being discussed so I have utmost confidence the deal was actually discussed, I don't have the same confidence it'll get done though. You chose your words well. You never said it was going to happen but that it was fluid. I don't think anyone here is doubting you. Again thanks for the information.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:35 PM) Is there beer? I'm in. Seth Beer?

See you all after Christmas for more circle jerking

If it was a controlled leak to entice another club (astros) then why involve the yankees at all. Throw something believable at them. Yankees involvement makes no sense at all.

Honestly it felt a little too good to be true.

Im sure someone asked this already but.. Why does this make sense for the Yankees?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) He called me a know it all dickhead. Apparently he doesn't read his twitter. His entire post was him telling everyone how great he is. The video is there for everyone to see. If he wants to punch me in the face, we can have it arranged. I think when the moment arrives, however, the gum will fall out of his mouth. I have heard of can't walk and chew gum at the same time. That was the first time I ever saw someone who just can't chew gum at the same time. Ooh damn. Is this why WSD tweeted for us to get some popcorn ready?

Keyword "potentially" Sounds like a stab in the dark to me.

I like that Colorado package.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 07:19 AM) https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mlb.com/21...l?client=safari I didn't see this anywhere, but thought it was worth sharing. Here are 8 Quintana trade proposals by the great Phil Rogers: **Please note that many of these proposals are absolutely horrific** CHC: Happ, Candelario, Zagunis NYY: Frazier, Tate, Williams, Solak PIT: Meadows, Holmes, Frazier HOU: Tucker, Reed, Gustave TEX: Profar, Gallo, Ibanez, Nicholas COL: Rodgers, Tapia, Murphy STL: Weaver, Bader, Kelly LAD: De Leon, Verdugo, Buehler, Barnes Shoo Texas, shoo.. go away

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 06:07 AM) Something should happen today if the Sox demands have been met. If not, they should shut down talks until after the holidays. In my opinion, it wouldn't be right to trade a player during Christmas. If nothing happens today I agree. I wouldnt think the GMs would want to bother each other until after the fact either.

Who is up with me? Who has the higher ceiling, Glasnow or Gioloto?

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:56 AM) That may just be the most insightful speculation of this thread yet! You say insightful.. i say maddening thinking about all the possibilities. Seriously im becoming delirious

QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:58 PM) Do we have any rumors or any meaningful conversation or do I have to read since page 174? Someone tweeted that the Cardinals were in talks for Q.

QUOTE (Mattchoo @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:00 PM) I don't get why Pitt would want to trade Glasnow. He seems like on the verge and could be 1 or 2 starter talent. But could be a 4 or 5. He isn't a sure thing. Holding pat and not trading for Q is a risky move if they are counting on Glasnow.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:27 PM) So the Sox will have 2 future power hitting DHs in Bell & Collins. Bleh. From reading the opinions of Pirates posters they were optimistic that his defense at first would improve.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:27 PM) I would do Meadows and Bell straight up 2-for-1 for Q. Probably throw in Frazier too, though demand a lesser (outside Pittsburgh's top 10) 3rd piece added in that case. I wouldn't sell Frazier short. He still has value and was incredibly unlucky last season.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) Meadows and Bell would be the winner...and another lower level piece or two. If it's Glasnow instead of Meadows, not sure you still pull the trigger, probably. Then you send Frazier (more likely, with a salary subsidy to help them financially) with Q to improve the 3rd/4th pieces coming back. Or you can do Q/Abreu if they prefer Jose...and that's the single sticking point in getting the deal done, replacing Bell's projected offensive contributions. JR almost never does this type of trade where we eat money to get back talent back (usually the opposite), but there's always HOPING. If Abreu is attached we better be getting their 1-6 prospects.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:12 PM) Which deal would you guys prefer? 1) Glasnow, Bell, & Newman 2) Martes, Tucker, Reed, & Stubbs I would definitely take #1, but would be open to #2 as I'm higher on Tucker than most here. I would love either one. I'm leaning towards 1 but I'm with you on Tucker. He will be a beast.

Indians have the division by the balls for the next couple of years. Good for them (but still !@#$ the Indians)

I really wish there was a leak about what the Pirates were offering on the table or what the Sox have been demanding.

Come on Hahn, give us a nice xmas present!!

QUOTE (Username @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:25 AM) Somebody may have already posted this but Phil Rodgers went on MLBN earlier today and said that: 1) The Cardinals have been in contact about Q 2) The Cubs are a dark horse to watch 3) The Sox are supposedly largely looking for bats in a Q trade Am I wrong for strongly prefering the Pirates prospects?