[Winter Meetings Thread]

3 hours ago, joejoesox said:

nah I think he's saying a well-liked player is getting traded

with that being said, he's probably full of 💩

This team is flailing right now. It is likely the end for this rebuild and contention window. We were far behind too many teams when the season ended, And those teams keep getting better. 

[Liam Hendriks coming up in trade discussions]

10 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Bleh. Really don’t like the idea but if the return is good enough I guess….very much one step backwards, to hopefully take one step forward (use the $ towards a real OF) type move. 

This is a salary dump most likely. We aren't getting any useful pieces for him unless he is a part of a deal with Vaughn or Eloy. 

[Trea Turner to Phillies]

Do these teams have blank checks or something? Feels like other teams get a few hundred billion to spend and we get about 200 hundred million. 

[Bryan Reynolds’s requests trade]

We don't acquire players like him. A waste of thread space. 

[2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread]

8 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

He hasn't missed a start due to injury since debuting in the majors. I'm not sure what else you could want to see to invest big money in him long-term.

We would need to see another ownership group. 

[DeGrom 5/$185 to Texas]

7 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

That is really insane for a pitcher. This is one area I agree with JR. Develop your own or get them in short term deals for big bucks - long term with massive bucks is just so risky. 

We are used to being cheap. It's always better to sign elite players when you can. We sign guys past their primes looking to catch lightning and that rarely works. 

[Yanks Lure Aaron Judge back, $360M/9]

Why is Aaron Judge speculating about the White Sox? 

[Jose Abreu in Houston thread]

This organization is s%*# soft served. Good luck to him. 

[Mike Clevinger to Sox per Rosenthal]

1 minute ago, Tnetennba said:

My fear as well. 

Gio is gone next year anyway. If you can get a nice piece for him then I'm okay with it. 

[Mike Clevinger to Sox per Rosenthal]

59 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Fucking puke on top of puke on top of puke after I puked up the puke in my mouth.

Sounds like he choked you out as well. 

[Mike Clevinger to Sox per Rosenthal]

9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Giolito put up 11.3 fWAR from 2019 to 2021 over 72 starts.  This ranked 7th in all of baseball.  And now some people are eager to dump him after a season in which he put 1.8 fWAR and a 3.65 xFIP.  You won’t find a better value for $10M next year than Lucas Giolito.  He won’t be an ace, but take #2 or #3 type starter production on the cheap for a year and then place a QO on him.  That’s probably the best path forward with him.

2020 may have skewed his stats playing against crap opponents with minimal pressure. On a team trying to win a World Series he is a 3, maybe a 4 at this point. But that is well worth his current salary, not 200 million that he probably wanted last year. 

[Sox building something outside GRF…?]

They need too badly. Also get a hotel or resort as well so our fans that commute can stay for a weekend home stand. 

[2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread]

16 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Multiple years? Yeah, no thanks. 

Molester sources? 

[Fire Rick Hahn]

8 hours ago, DashFan said:

Irrelevant. This is America, where rich people fail upward all the time.

You don't give credit for getting rich by taking advantage of fans? 

[Kopech has knee surgery - expected to be ready for ST]

Please rename this thread. I damn near had a heart attack. 

[Your 2023 Off-Season Plan]

1 hour ago, maxjusttyped said:

99% of Hahn criticism is valid, but Pollock was coming off a 3 WAR season & 2 consecutive years with a wRC+ of 130 or higher. It was impossible to foresee him falling off a cliff like this.

How many aging, slow and injured players does Hahn have to acquire before he realizes they rarely work out for us? 

[Fire Rick Hahn]

Hahn is need desperate need of firing from his GM role. He can move somewhere else within the organization. I have no faith that he can ball on a budget. 

[Fire Rick Hahn]

On 11/14/2022 at 3:40 PM, shago said:

Jerry has been the worst performing owner in baseball and basketball for 40 years with plenty of payroll ... he will get it right now because?

FIFY. His entire legacy is lucking into Jordan in basketball. 

[2023 MLB offseason signings and rumors thread]

10 hours ago, pcq said:

I would like to see Josie with the Cub. He would tear up the Nominal League. 

The drinks are strong in Oak Park I see. 

[The State of the Sox...]

11 minutes ago, fathom said:

And two starting pitchers 

I am confident in only one of our starting pitchers going into next season and that is Cease. I'm not sure what we are getting from Gio or Kopech. Not sure if Lynn is gonna bounce back or be another DK

[The State of the Sox...]

2 hours ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

That would be crazy if it was true, but it almost certainly isn't.

On paper it will be a lot closer than people realize. Especially if they get Abreu, Correa, and a good OF with that money. 

[The State of the Sox...]

After this free agency the Cubs are probably gonna pass us. Let that sink in. 

[White Sox interested in Athletics Catcher Sean Murphy]

Yasmani isn't a DH, so get an OF and 2B. 

[AJ Pollock declines option, becomes FA]

21 hours ago, HOFHurt35 said:

Adam LaRoche Dunn and now AJ Pollock have given Rick Hahn two mulligans on bad acquisitions. 

That's $21 million saved there. 

Rick Hahn is a very bad ML GM. 

FIFY.

[Fire Rick Hahn]

Fire Hahn.