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    Mike Clevinger under investigation for domestic violence

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    5 hours ago, raBBit said:

    You don't know that though. Their investigation is still ongoing. They could still hand him a 162 game suspension tonight. Now I don't think that will happen and they should have already made a judgement, but they have not taken a position yet. 

    To anyone who has used critical thinking in this situation, there is not a lot of evidence that Clevinger was looking at a big suspension. In DV cases that the MLB has deemed serious, they have acted quickly to put players on administrative leave. In DV cases that were significant enough to involved law enforcement, there has been swift judgements made with the clarity from the law enforcement involvement.

    In Clevinger's case, he was put under investigation and subsequently finished his season without interruption. He has already played half a season under this investigation and it took a month or so after the investigation to become public for people to seem to understand that. There really isn't a comparable case with MLB handling an investigation like Clevinger's. At some point, they have to realize, this happened in the "summer" and it is a "he said, she said" situation that you would think has no further evidence coming forward. I am guessing the hold up is the MLB is hoping some more information comes out against Clevinger so they can punish him and be held in the high graces of social media. If they don't have enough/sufficient evidence to punish Clevinger, they are concerned with the backlash they will get for not punishing him. It's really a microcosm of the nasty world that is social media. The people watching this case on social media are not concerned with right or wrong or the facts of the matter, they just want scalps. They want to call Clevinger or the Sox or the MLB names to show how moral and great they are as people by putting down others.

    For the folks who aren't concerned with proving their moral greatness to a few hundred followers on Twitter, the following of this is just being a Sox/baseball fan. And for those folks, it's just about the facts of the matter. And the facts bode well Clevinger whether he's a POS or not. And I tend to think he probably is a POS. I just don't think the facts of the matter that are out there at this point give credence to the idea that this investigation will lead to a lengthy suspension if any.

    I'm saying they could have put him on some exempt list until further notice. If they didn't do this with the evidence they have available now, this thing could drag out with Clevinger playing. It may take time to get this through court, and I'm not sure anymore pictures of the abuse are coming in. So MLB may end up needing to wait a few months to make a decision when they could have put him on leave already. 

    Mike Clevinger under investigation for domestic violence

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    11 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

     Wouldn't count of that...still going to largely play out in the court of public opinion, and MLB has been fighting the last 20-30 years to increase female interest/participation which is passed on to children (via both parents).

    MLB has had more than enough time to act. I think they are either waiting for more substantial evidence, or this case isn't looking strong legally. This is a very serious situation and strong allegations were made. MLB picked their lane and it's the wrong one. 

    Mike Clevinger under investigation for domestic violence

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    1 minute ago, GREEDY said:

    Reddit slowly changing their stance to just hating Hahn for signing Clevinger (which was pretty much Soxtalk's initial taek).

     

    That's because without substantial evidence and court appearances, Clevinger is going to play. The Union won't have it any other way, so the hate for it has to stick somewhere. It's just a sad situation all around. 

    Mike Clevinger under investigation for domestic violence

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    1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

    It just leads me to believe there isn't much in this investigation that will lead to a suspension of him.  Otherwise, I think there would be some administrative leads.  My guess is apart from the he said/she said, there isn't any evidence. 

    I agree with this. They may even be cutting backdoor deals with his baby momma. No way he isn't booted off the team or not invited to camp if there was enough evidence against him. 

    Sell the Team

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    2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

    The saddest part of all is that the JR group isn't even the worst ownership group in Chicago.

    Yes they are. They've ruined the Bulls and Sox. They also think losing is hilarious. 

    Sell the Team

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    On 12/19/2022 at 5:44 PM, The Grinder said:

    Too bad the billboards message will fall on deaf ears....

    It won't. Give it a few weeks, our sports media will pick up on it. It will also make some rounds through Twitter. Jerry won't care, but attention is the ultimate goal. 

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    RUMOR: White Sox interested in Adam Duvall

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    4 hours ago, PopDemolition2020 said:

    I barely post, I am more of an observer. but right now I cant sleep… blah blah blah.
    I couldn't stop thinking about what the White Sox and they can still easily improve. Im just a fan, a big fan that is slowly losing hope in this group. But still has high hopes.

    F*$CKing forget about TLR and Abreu and lets move Forward!

    What If….

    I try to stray far from Unrealistic signing and Trade discussions. I also don't pay too much attention to Salary Caps. But What If Jerry can open the checkbook just a little more and Sign Adam Duvall to a one year 6Mil Contract to Bridge Colas and also potentially Platoon when needed. He can fill every OF hole and Also Play 1B.

    Then Sign Brandon Drury 2 Years/20 Million. Can play every infield Position and Also has enough Power to slipn into the DH slot. 
     

    Anderson SS

    Benintendi *LF

    Robert CF

    Jimenez DH

    Moncada *3B

    Drury 2B

    Vaughn 1B

    Duvall/Colas RF

    Grandal/Perez C
     

    I would be more than ok with that. 

     

     

    Get some rest my fellow Sox fan. 

    Jesse Rogers: Sox Sign Benintendi - 5yr / $75M

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    16 hours ago, greg775 said:

    Now that we got Benintendi, can u imagine if we still had Jose?

    Lineup: Timmy, Benny, Robert, Abreu, Yoan, Yasmani (not a bad six-some). Now we go with Timmy, Benny, Robert, Vaughn, Yoan, Sheets, Yasmani (lot of pressure on Vaughn and Sheets this season when it didn't have to be that way. Jose woulda been a huge veteran bat.

    Cmon Vaughn/Sheets have a nice offseason and show continued improvement and we might have a decent lineup! 

    If we could keep our cool and temper I personally think it'd be nice of some of you to explain to me how my lineup with Abreu wouldn't be kick-butt this season compared to the alternative!! Makes no sense except for Jerry's pocketbook. We also need some leadership and Timmy better fill that void. You gotta want to win. Jose did. Cmon Timmy it's your team!!

    Card declined. 

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