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420, I'm not bringing it up. The NY Daily News brought it up after Flynt made the announcement.

Pull tax exempt status on ALL churches and tax them finally. It'll stop asshats like Benny Hinn from having a $3 million dollar beachfront property "parsonage" that is tax exempt.

In the tit for tat department about Kerry and his affair... Now the incorrigible Larry Flynt says he plans to market a Bush abortion story as genuine - in a book to be published this summer by Kensington Press. "This story has got to come out," the wheelchair-bound Hustler magazine honcho told the Daily News' Corky Siemaszko. "There's a lot of hypocrisy in the White House about this whole abortion issue." Flynt claimed that Bush arranged for the procedure in the early '70s. "I've talked to the woman's friends," Flynt said. "I've tracked down the doctor who did the abortion, I tracked down the Bush people who arranged for the abortion," Flynt said. "I got the story nailed." Flynt wouldn't disclose whether he plans to name the woman. Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie was unavailable for comment on Flynt's charges. Flynt's even got affidavits from the friends of the woman as well. He's actually had this since 2000 but family and friends of the woman have been afraid to come forward.

Nuke, I also had a question for you: How come you have not come out and openly condemned Ann Coulter for her slanderous comments about Max Cleland regarding his military service? Just wondering.

Evidence on Bush adds up to AWOL By Bill Press TRIBUNE MEDIA SERVICES The deluge of letters and e-mail prompted by a recent column demands another look: Did George Bush go AWOL? Reacting to my recital of evidence that Lt. Bush didn't show up for a big chunk of his National Guard duty in Alabama and Texas, from May 1972 to May 1973, outraged readers pounced. He received an honorable discharge, they argued. Plus, Alabama's Gen. William Turnipseed backed off his claim of never having seen Bush on base. And the White House finally released records that prove he served his time. Would I make a retraction? The answer is: No, no and no. The honorable discharge proves nothing. Radio talk show host Don Imus told listeners about getting in trouble, including punching a sergeant, while in the Marines. His superiors told him they'd give him an honorable discharge on one condition - that he promise not to re-enlist. Sometimes, Imus points out, honorable discharges are given just to get rid of people. In fact, according to Separation and Retirement Procedures for today's Air National Guard, those eligible for honorable discharge include people who fail to comply with requirements for a medical examination; who abuse drugs; who have unsatisfactory participation; or whom the service is unable to locate. Nobody knows under what rubric Lt. Bush was discharged. Yes, Gen. Turnipseed, commander of the Alabama Air National Guard when Bush was assigned there - who originally said he never saw Bush report for duty - now adds that he was traveling and not around much at the time. But that doesn't mean anything. One man's absence doesn't prove another's presence. Remember: To date, despite the offer of a reward, not one guardsman has come forward to say he served with George Bush in Alabama. And the White House can't name one, either. Perhaps because there aren't any. On "Meet the Press," President Bush promised to release his entire military files. Last week, the White House reneged. Instead, they released only selected pay stubs and the record of a dental exam which, they say, prove Bush served his time in Alabama. Not on your life. Far from resolving the issue, they just add to the confusion. Here's what the White House documents show. First, that Bush was not paid at all between April 1972 till October 1972. Which means even the White House admits he did not report for duty in Alabama, as required, for at least six months. Second, that Bush was paid for nine appearances, a total of 25 days, between October 1972 and April 1973, but they don't say where. Third, that Bush received a dental exam at Dannelly Air National Guard Base in Montgomery on Jan. 6, 1973. That's it. The sole piece of evidence that Bush ever showed up at a National Guard base in Alabama: He went to the dentist. Once. Whoop-de-do! Documents released by the White House still shed no light on why Bush did not take his annual physical, as required, in August 1972. But they also raise a more serious question. Pay stubs show Bush on duty the weekend of May 1-3, 1973, at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston. Yet that very same weekend, on May 2, his two superior officers at Ellington signed a report saying they could not complete his annual evaluation because "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report." Who's lying? George Bush himself left no doubt why he joined the National Guard: to get out of Vietnam. In May 1984, he told the Houston Chronicle: "I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes." So Bush, a son of privilege, used his congressman father's connections to get into the Guard. After learning to fly, he used his father's political connections to get assigned to a Republican Senate campaign in Alabama. Then he used his father's connections to get out of the Guard five months early, so he could attend Harvard Business School. And now President Bush has the audacity to suggest that anyone who questions his military record is denigrating the National Guard. No, Mr. President, the person denigrating the National Guard is not the one asking the questions. It's the one who says he did his duty, but didn't. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Press, a political analyst for MSNBC, is author of "Spin This!"

What about FOX's Bridezillas? Or Married by America? For a conservative station owner that touts the "sanctity of marriage" wouldn't you think his shows would treat the topic with a bit more respect?

Dental records and 1 guy saying something is not conclusive evidence that he did anything. If they believed this they could have come out and said things before instead of waiting all this time. The opposition to Bush came out a long time ago and stated that he was most likely not in Alabama in 1972-1973 because there is no evidence where he was for months on end. There is a lack of conclusive 100% incontrovertible evidence, but I'm very apprehensive to give Bush the benefit of the doubt given his track record.

http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ID=2834&onthefly=1 There's more and more evidence that W didn't show up, Nuke.

I got a laugh out of the photo you posted.

You mean Karl Rove lies? But don't forget they were with each other at an anti-war rally! So, if you went to an Atlanta Braves game in the nineties and unknowingly sat three or four rows behind Fonda and Ted Turner, you have slapped veterans in the face? This is how "The Uniter" is going to win this election? The BFEE bastards have made going to war patriotic, and anyone who doesn't want to bomb defenseless third-world cities is a friend of Jane Fonda? What about Rummy meeting with Saddam to sell him poison gas? Rummy's not sitting 4-5 rows behind Saddam. He's kissing his ass and selling him gas to poison the Kurds - with America's blessing.

Dos Equis or Guinness

Try again, Nuke...the evidence is still murky one way or the other with no conclusive proof. Try reading the SpinSanity article I posted.

War is peace. Slavery is freedom, etc. etc.

Telling the truth isn't exactly Rove's policy.

I preferred this one Aaron McGruder kicks ass.

I was just on The Memory Hole and they had this story on there: http://www.denverpost.com/cda/article/prin...1913069,00.html Thoughts?

Last time I checked it was a round world. These morons give real conservatives a bad name.

FanOf14, I think marital infedelity is important insofar as their legislation can be seen as hypocritical. I mean, when a lot of Republicans are for a "sanctity of marriage" amendment to ban gay marriage...how can their reverence for the sanctity of marriage be believed if they violate it themselves. That's when I think infidelity is important.

I heard this joke today: W's poll #s are the exact same as his father's were in popularity around this time 12 years ago when he lost to Clinton. Kerry, not a superstitious man, has decided though to f*** anything that moves.

Peas and cauliflower.

C averages don't usually get people into business schools. Legacy status of his grandfather and father helped to grease the wheels along with the library that his dad donated. I'm not saying that it's the only reason he got in but it looks like there was more than just his grades which were much less than stellar. Also, many children of important families got into the guard, it was just not something devoted to the Bush family. JH Hatfield's bio of Bush does a pretty fair job in showing his life and everything. And his claims are backed up by at least 3 different sources or he did not include them and his source list is pretty expansive.

It's not just you.

Hey Nuke, speaking of whitewashes...what about the 9/11 commission? The administration has stated that they will not speak to the commission under oath, have stonewalled with providing documents, and has said that testimony they give must not be made public. Or how about the whitewash of not allowing media to take photos of the American victims in the war on terror coming home for their final resting place? Rove knows that these images were the ones that turned the tide against the War in Vietnam and therefore does not want to show them. And there has been an exaggeration "responses to a general terror threat", "color coded alert systems", buy duct tape and plastic sheeting with stores selling out of the stuff. Nuke, the Bush administration gives vague warnings damn near every goddamn day to keep us scared so we follow whatever bulls*** he spews whether it be billions for Mars or a moon base or just keeping his own ass in power. I never knew right wing, silver spoon having murderers and thieves had apologists.

Baggs, I agree with your Kerry comments. Calling him a traitor does a disservice to the word traitor. It's like anti-Semite. That gets thrown around so much now that it's losing all of it's meaning. Benedict Arnold was a traitor. Kerry went in-country and fought. It just pisses me off that Rove is trying to spin this to make him look like a traitor. I don't know how many people have read JH Hatfield's biography of Bush but he paints him in a positive and negative light on certain issues. It's an entire book of his childhood to running for President. In the book it discusses a lot about the murky circumstances of Bush getting into the TX Air National Guard in the first place and there is some evidence showing that it was his daddy and his daddy's CIA and oil businessman connections that got George Jr. into the Guard despite being low on the list with thousands of people ahead of him with better test scores. It's by no means conclusive but like CK said "where there's smoke, there's usually fire."

An article from SpinSanity: What is Spinsanity? It's a Web site whose proprietors scrutinize statements by our political leaders, candidates, journalists, and pundits for honesty, fairness, and rhetorical soundness. Each Thursday on the Commentary Page, the good folks at Spinsanity will restore sanity to the spin of statements from both the right and the left. Today's subject is the debate over President Bush's military service record. Despite claims pro and con, the jury is still very much out Did President Bush honor his obligations in the National Guard? Though partisans are claiming otherwise, the evidence is murky. The issue, last raised during the 2000 campaign, surfaced again recently after filmmaker Michael Moore referred to Bush in January as a "deserter" and Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe claimed on Feb. 1 that Bush "was AWOL in the Alabama National Guard." Not even the harshest interpretation of Bush's record could possibly substantiate Moore's accusation. As Eric Boehlert wrote in Salon.com, " 'Deserter' is a criminal term: It refers to a military personnel who abandons his post with no intention of ever returning." This is very different from alleging that the President did not show up for some of his scheduled duty in the National Guard. What about McAuliffe's charge that the President was AWOL? In May 1972, Bush requested a transfer from his Texas Air National Guard unit to a Guard unit in Alabama, where he had secured a job working on a Senate campaign. Though the transfer was denied, Bush moved to Alabama in May; a second request for a transfer was approved in September. There is no definitive evidence, however, on whether or not Bush ever reported for duty in Alabama. In 2000, when the Boston Globe interviewed William Turnipseed, the commander of Bush's unit in Alabama, he stated that Bush never reported to him. (Turnipseed has backed away from this position in recent interviews, stating he does not know if Bush reported or not.) For his part, Bush has always maintained that he did report for duty in Alabama, performing some sort of desk job. Bush returned to Houston in late 1972, but it is not clear when he resumed service with his Guard unit there. His superiors in Texas wrote in May 1973 that they could not perform his annual evaluation since Bush had "not been observed at this unit" from May 1, 1972, to April 30, 1973. In 2000, Bush's campaign pointed to a torn document containing only the President's middle initial and blacked-out Social Security number as evidence that he had served in late 1972 and early 1973. After reportedly performing 36 days of active duty in the Texas unit in May, June and July 1973, Bush received an honorable discharge in October. When asked about the matter Sunday on NBC's Meet the Press, Bush answered: "There may be no evidence, but I did report; otherwise, I wouldn't have been honorably discharged. . . . I got an honorable discharge, and I did show up in Alabama." Then on Tuesday, the White House released a full version of the so-called "torn document" along with payroll records showing Bush was not paid for service between May and September 1972, but was paid for two days in late October 1972, four days in November 1972, six days in January 1973, and two days in April 1973. It is not clear where this service took place, or how the records square with the May 1973 assertion by his superiors that he had not been observed at his Texas unit. In short, unqualified assertions that Bush went "AWOL" are not justified because the facts are still unclear. Where and when did Bush report? Did he fulfill his requirements as a Guard member? We do not know. In recent weeks, Bush supporters have made similarly unqualified claims that the issue is settled, often relying on a Jan. 23 analysis by FactCheck.org, a Web site run by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania. Marc Racicot, chairman of Bush's reelection campaign, claimed in a Feb. 3 news release that Annenberg "has said that the charges are unfounded." Tucker Eskew, an advisor to the campaign, said on CNN the same day that Annenberg "has recently completely overturned any of those crazy ideas." And in a Washington Times op-ed last Friday, three Republican congressmen claimed Annenberg "thoroughly investigated and dispelled these false charges." In reality, Factcheck.org hardly settled the matter. Its analysis, which focused on Moore's "deserter" accusation, simply compiled a number of media reports in a haphazard fashion (omitting, for instance, the May 1973 performance evaluation) and suggested that Moore is wrong because "Bush was honorably discharged without ever being officially accused of desertion or being away without official leave." FactCheck.org did not claim Bush has been exonerated, however, writing that media reports have "reached mixed conclusions.