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Everyone has that problem. Only Miami and MIL have pitchers beyond say 6 strong

But we can. The team already said he is ready for a jump bc its not about innings but the intensity, magnitude, and stress put on the arm. I assume we can expect easily 150 IP if he stays healthy and they manage him properly (Sox have problems with that so who knows). Imo by October he will be our ACE but due to inexperience we will slot him 3rd.

In reality our rotation should be broken down as 1: Giotlito 2: Lance Lynn 3: Michael Kopech 4: Dylan Cease 5/6: ReyLo/Keuchel Whoever starts and whoever is the 6th man will be determined in ST. If we somehow get another starter then it drops Keuchel off imo.

He's not. He will be at the very best the #5 or #6 starter.

Thats a non argument imo bc its no different then it is now. The players near the top would actually be getting more than the current system as would the players at the bottom. Christian Vaquero would have actually gotten more money this past January but would still be locked up for the same amount of time.

This is one issue im on the side of the owners. There is a desperate need for a draft. The current proposal projects to spend $20m+ more then before. If there is not a deal the players are the sole cause and should be exposed for it. Tatis' statements are not true and just grand standing imo.

Here is my top 20 White Sox prospects. I did leave a few off that others have as their age to me drops them down a lot. 1. Norge Vera: the much anticipated stateside debut of Vera will come this summer. While in the DSL Vera showed improved fastball velocity (touching 101 mph) and command while also working on a splitter with Jose Contreras. The improved pitch arsenal and fastball velocity gives Vera easy Ace upside with a floor of an elite closer. However, if he can command the fastball while keeping the velocity late into games and show enough from the secondary pitches then buckle up because he will take off like a rocket. 2. Colson Montgomery: the White Sox's most recent 1st round draft pick will now focus solely on baseball. Much like Tim Anderson, Montgomery's upside will continue to grow as he moves through the system as a pro. His hit tool should improve with more centralized focus on baseball and allow for his power to develop from raw power potential to in game power. The risk the Sox took on a high schooler should pay off down the road for them. 3. Oscar Colas: don't sleep on Colas as many of the experts seem to be doing. Colas has had a long journey to just make it to the Sox. He began in Cuba, then minor league ball in Japan before finally getting a taste of the big leagues there while playing for the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks. His hit tool and power were on display as he hit 11 HR and batted .302 in the minors in 66 games and had 1 HR while hitting .278 through 7 games for the bug league club. What stands out between his time in Japan and now, is his dedication and work ethic to transform his body from an overweight-esque physique to a much more toned and muscular build. If he can stay that driven about improving his game stateside, he could quickly move up this list and through the minors. The rust that has surely built up from not having played a games in 2+ years is really the only thing that is holding him back from stardom. 4. Jake Burger: there is no one who deserves to be here more. Either by sheer perseverance or skill, Burger missed 3+ seasons because of a couple torn achilles and the pandemic but he still managed to prove there is a legit mlb caliber player ready to star. Burger hit .274 with 18 HR at AAA and looked comfortable hitting .263 with 1 HR over 15 games in the bigs. He is only going to get better with further health and time to actually hone his skills. I fully believe if the Sox ever trade him or man up and give him a playing time, he is a .275 hitter with 25+ HR potential. 5. Jose Rodriguez: the White Sox were pretty aggressive with Rodriguez this past season and he answered the challenge with ease. Rodriguez showed a nice power/speed combo early at low A, then he proved it was no fluke at A+. The Sox then quickly promoted him to AA at the end of the season for a handful of games. Over the entire season he hit .301 with 14 HR and 30 SB's. Depending on how the Sox's 2B situation looks like in September, Rodriguez could be pushing for a call up to the bigs if he hits similar to 2021. 6. Wes Kath: there is a lot to like about Kath and he will have to start showing it this season to stay this high on the list. Big power potential with a potential above average hit tool are in the cards for him of he can tap into his raw power. He didn't show much from his time at rookie ball but the tools are there for this high school product that the Sox took a chance on in the 2nd round of the 2021 MLB draft. His bat flip game is already off the charts 7. Yoelqui Cespedes: many sites and podcasts have stated that his calling card was his power, but that didn't show up in his stateside debut as he clubbed 8 HR's in 72 games, which isn't bad but definitely not "calling card" worthy. What was squarely on display was his base stealing acumen (18 SB's) and his bat (.288 average over A+ and AA). Maybe the power will show more in 2022, but with his smaller stature I'd bank on his power being capped some and his ceiling being a Michael Taylor type player. 8. Matthew Thompson: Thompson comes in at number 8 because of his potential upside. His era in 2021 looks bad, but it was much better when looking deeper. His numbers after his months-long IL stint were much better than before the injury. He posted 9 games of 3 runs or fewer after the injury with five 0-1 run games. What stands out to me is his ability and willingness to use/command the breaking ball. 9. Romy Gonzalez: I think the organization was blindsided by how good Romy was last season. Romy hit a meager .244 with 4 HR's and 11 SB's at A ball in 2019 before missing a full developmental year because of the pandemic. In 2021 he burst onto the scene as a legit power/speed guy, between AA and AAA Romy hit 24 HR's while batting .283 and stealing 24 bases. Barring another 2B signing or trade by the White Sox, Romy could be in contention with Jake Burger and Leury Garcia for playing time on opening day. If he does manage to stand out, it will most likely come from his power and approach to the opposite field driving his numbers. 10. Luis Mieses: what does easy power and good contact get you, 15 HR, a .270 average over low A and A+, and a top 10 spot on this list. As his plate discipline and pitch recognition get better he should get to even more of that effortless power. 20-25 homeruns in a season or two seem to be the correct power progression. 11. Bryan Ramos: at only 19, Ramos was one of the younger players to start at Low A in 2021. His youth was not a detriment as he held his own over the entirety of the season by hitting .244 with 13 HR and 13 SB. The stolen bases most likely will fade down to 0 as he exits low A and their baserunner friendly rules, but the power could develop nicely with the bat. 12. Tanner McDougal: drafted out of high school in the 5th round of the 2021 MLB draft, McDougal only appeared in 5 games before needing Tommy John surgery. During his brief time in rookie ball, McDougal was showing a real knack for striking batters out with 17 K's in 9.2 innings. Look to 2023 for McDougal to show off the high spin rate slurve and mid 90's fastball. 13. Andrew Dalquist: command, command command. If Dalquist can increase his command with a higher strike % (58% in 2021) and a lower walk rate (6.1 BB/9), then there might be some real potential here. Dalquist was drafted out of highschool in 2019 so this past season was his first real taste of pro baseball, if this past season was mostly rust then watch for him to start making waves. 14. Wilfred Veras: stepping into rookie ball in Arizona without having ever played in the DSL because of COVID, Veras held his own and then some by hitting. 322 with 4 HR. At 6'2", 180 pounds and only 19 years old, there is plenty of growth and power projection still to come for Veras. The big factor that may be the make or break point for him is the strikeout numbers (~23%). If he can manage to drop the K rate to below 20% then his power and bat could be shining bright on the south side in a few years. 15. Jared Kelley: Kelley had a rough 2021 season marred by trips to the IL in the middle of summer. Very raw still with a potential plus fastball and plus change-up. A move to the bullpen might be a possibility if he cannot develop a breaking pitch to throw hitters off the straight stuff. He would land higher on this list if not for the lack of a strong breaking breaking ball. 16. Yolbert Sanchez: one of the few older prospects to make the list. Yolbert has his age knocking him down as he played at A+ being 24. He will be 25 once the season begins with only 39 games above A+ to his record. A good hit tool against much younger competition is fine but doesn't really do much to show the true skill that is or is not there. Yolbert will really have to come out on fire once the season begins to stay as a relevant prospect. 17. Victor Quezada: keep this name on your radar as he could start getting noticed on industry prospect lists as this next season progresses. Quezada is said to have big power and was one of the more recent signings that illustrated the White Sox's plan of going after power bats. Marco Paddy said of Quezada "Big-time power, very impressive to find in a young guy." This next season should provide the chance for Quezada to show the power and bat when he gets stateside at rookie ball. 18. Erick Hernandez: don't fall for the Juan Soto comparisons, the real takeaway from that is his ability to control the bat through the zone like Soto and hit the ball to all fields. Hernandez is still very raw as a 16 year old and has much to work on. If he can show progression with the bat over the next few seasons then the Sox would have done well with this signing. (No video) 19. Dario Borrero: Marco Paddy had this to say about Borrero, “He’s going to have a lot of power. The intriguing thing about him is he can hit line-to-line. He handles pitchers, goes the other way when he has to, reads the breaking ball very well. He’s a very impressive kid. You normally don’t see Venezuelan players that tall with that kind of swing, being left-handed.” Unfortunately, Borrero missed the majority of the DSL after a hot start due to an undisclosed injury. I am most excited about seeing what he can do once healthy and stateside. (No Video) 20. Benyamin Bailey: Bailey is a few seasons ahead of the younger guys on this list, but went through the same path. The reason Bailey winds up below the others though is the lack of production stateside. Bailey hit .193 with 4 HR's over 61 games between rookie ball and low A. He will need to drastically cut down his K rate (30%) in order to tap into his raw power and boost his batting average.

I'm putting my rankings together, can't wait to release it.

The starting rotation was cooked bc they were going from 40-60 ip to 150-200 ip. Basically what Kopech is gonna do next season. They should re-sign Rodon and probably go with a 6 man rotation at times but not all year. And definitely no DK

I didn't respond for over an hour and the thread was fine and then you come in with all your lies starting stuff just like before. 1. Stop lying 2. Maybe address why you keep lying 3. Don't ever call me a liar bc I don't lie 4. Learn to have some respect for people bc calling people a liar and using lies to do so is a joke 5. Don't ever call me a damn liar bc I don't lie. 6. If you keep calling me a liar while using lies im gonna continue to post in response

So let's document it. Statement 1: my statement was factual despite what you think of it Statement 2: I never said anything other than I would have preferred to give Romy the AB's down the stretch (so you just lied) Statement 3: I never said anything about Leury hitting down the stretch (so you lied again) Statement 4: I never said anything about Leury hitting in the playoffs (so you lied again) Statement 5: you did by the way you are defending Leury (but yeah I said no one said it) You just lied repeatedly bc I said nothing in regard to Leury's stats or play I've let this go but yet you keep bringing this back up and lying in doing so Why....

I've never made a single lie (except for the joking superstar 2B comment). You however have called me a liar and used used blatant lies to back it up. Its pretty embarrassing for this site to see an Admin act the way you are for no reason at all. Again. I have not made a single lie You have lied repeatedly in calling me a liar

Some people should listen to these public service announcements. Especially those that have no arguments ? @hi8is is really trying to help you ? That said. Leury is loving this. Locked up through what his age 33 or 34 season.

I honestly don't know what your problem is. I have my opinion, you don't like it and think Leury is a superstar 2B, thats fine. You are wrong, but that is fine.

Maybe you should read before posting

And yes if I knew if was officially not an error then 5 bad plays would have been the better wording but it was still a factual statement no matter what it was rules

The one is right was, is, and will always be considered an error in everyone's mind regardless of what the official scorer says. If southsideer2k5 wants to argue the minute details they gonna lose bc it was an error. No one gives a damn what it was scored, it was an error. It was not a misplay, it was not a bad play, it was not a misjudgement, it was not a bad route, it was not a bad read. IT WAS AN ERROR. They give errors to 1B for less, it was an error. He wants to lie and say I said 5 errors when I clearly said errors and bad plays. Then he wants to lie and say I said I posted false player outputs, I haven't posted a single player output. He is just a liar and sore bc I believe this a very bad signing unless they do more and sign an everyday starter to force him to a backup

I didn't say 5 errors. I said errors and bad plays bc I dint know if the one in right was called an error it wasn't. So my statement was factually correct. He made like 5 errors and bad plays

1. I didn't say 5 errors, I said "5 errors/bad plays (fact)" 2. I haven't said any player outputs (fact) 3. You can keep lying all you want it just makes you look real bad

I haven't posted any falsehood

You all can defend Leury all you want but he is a horrible starter and a very bad signing if it is as as starter which it appears so for now. Now if it is to play 1 or 2 games a week as a backup, barring injuries, good signing then.

Didn't know if they had recorded the one in rf as an error So 5 very bad plays lol.

Yeah thats why I said "and bad plays". The one in RF was 100 % an error but didn't get recorded as an error

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