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QUOTE (SoxSteve @ Jan 14, 2017 -> 12:38 AM) Jimenez and Happ would be enough for me. It's light i know but i would take in a heartbeat. Throw in Cease and its a done deal. I would ake Cantini the catcher over Zagunis. I wonder if the Cubs might bite on something like this. Theo just said in the media in the last few weeks that the plan all along was to load up on hitting prospects with the idea of trading some of them for pitching at some point. I'm not sure they would consider moving Jimenez though.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:50 AM) Not when you remember they depend on their farm system to feed their MLB team with low cost players due to a very low (comparatively) budget. They can't afford to lose multiple prospects, especially ones close to the MLB. They may gain Q but in a few years they will drop to a bad team again without the constant flow of prospects. They need to maintain a team with at least a chance to make the playoffs. i can see both sides. They do need Q to make a run at the WS. However, are they willing to take the chance of going back to being bad and broke with no prospects coming along. This is why they want to trade Mccutchen. They can get a couple of good prospects to replenish the system while trading others for Q. It wouldn't surprise me that if McCutchen is traded, a Q trade comes shortly after. They depend on their farm system - but the thing with Quintana though - is you won't ever get a pitcher of his caliber for his dollars. Even a homegrown pitcher, by the time they take their lumps and bruises in the big leagues and get it together, they won't be making as little as Q makes the next 4 years. And that's on the off chance that they are as good as Quintana is. To me, he would be a rare exception where he would be worth parting with some top prospects in exchange for - including and maybe even especially for lower income teams that normally don't want to part with their prospects.

I don't think it's as much 'too much pitching' as it is 'not enough hitters' in the system. I'm also in the camp that if the Sox can't get a legit bluechip hitting prospect to headline a trade, then I'd rather hold on to Quintana for now.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 8, 2017 -> 10:19 AM) So there will be a lot more pitching available next year. Cubs do not need or are desperate to have Quintana this year. The reason q will get a haul is because of the favorable market. There's no pressure for cubs to pull trigger on trade that big. Has nothing to do with Hahn getting over trading with the cubs. There's no pressure for next year, but in the big picture perhaps there is? There will not be a pitcher of Quintana's quality on that type of contract available next year. Theoretically, if they made a deal for Q, the money saved could allow them to re-sign Arrieta?

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 08:54 PM) He's a year away from commanding a big package, assuming he takes that next step this year. I'm fine taking that risk and building his value more. A year from now, we can reevaluate how he fits in our rebuild timeline based on how quickly our prospects are developing. First time poster, lifelong Sox fan. I agree with the quoted post. Rodon's value probably isn't what it will be a year or two from now. That said, being a Boras client - he isn't likely to ever sign a team friendly deal like Quintana, Sale and Eaton all did....and this team friendly deals were a big part of the massive value those 3 players have/had. And I have concerns of the Sox willingness to pay him what he is worth around the time this rebuild might be in the latter stages. What I'm trying to say is - yes I'd move him if the price is right, but that time isn't likely to be now.