the only news media outlet in Chicago that anyone really pays attention to anymore is the Tribune. and even though they relinquished a great majority of their stake in the Cubs 7 yrs ago, you will still have Sox fans claiming Cub bias when anyone of the Trib writers goes all negative on the Sox…. which is something I never quite understood….

 

They still own 5% of the franchise I believe.

 

Mark

Sox could have talked Buehrle into pitching for pennies this year and kept Danks and worked with him. Danks could have been no worse than Shields, Albers and the like. Fire Hahn. Fire Robin. SELL THE TEAM Jerry.

 

Mark had no interest in returning and supposedly needed surgery to even think about trying to pitch.

 

Mark

 

Mark had no interest in returning and supposedly needed surgery to even think about trying to pitch.

 

Mark

Will he agree to return next season?

Only if Konerko and Uribe join him...

Sox could have talked Buehrle into pitching for pennies this year and kept Danks and worked with him. Danks could have been no worse than Shields, Albers and the like. Fire Hahn. Fire Robin. SELL THE TEAM Jerry.

 

I'd love to see the basis for this statement.

I think we should do a poll to see how many people don't know what the word sup means.

Haha. Unless we have some really old grannies posting from their nursing homes it's gotta be zero.

Haha. Unless we have some really old grannies posting from their nursing homes it's gotta be zero.

 

I didn't as recently as last week (and I'm sorry I know now...)

 

Mark

My attitude is what new ? The Sox have been the sorriest franchise in baseball history. The only team to have ever been caught throwing a World Series . All the lifetime bans from that . Disco demolition, fans attacking umpires. Cheap terrible or no money owners odd uniforms and I'm sure I'm not remembering some stuff. Oh yea a midget batting . One World Series win in forever . But I'm stuck with them and that won't ever change.

My attitude is what new ? The Sox have been the sorriest franchise in baseball history. The only team to have ever been caught throwing a World Series . All the lifetime bans from that . Disco demolition, fans attacking umpires. Cheap terrible or no money owners odd uniforms and I'm sure I'm not remembering some stuff. Oh yea a midget batting . One World Series win in forever . But I'm stuck with them and that won't ever change.

I don't think the midget batting is that big an embarrassment. I think the hires of Bevington and Robin are pretty embarrassing though. Robin had no experience and it would take an idiot to think Bevvs had leadership skills as well.

Sox are a pathetic franchise but letting a midget bat a couple times isn't that ridiculous. I think another good poll would be "are the Sox the sorriest franchise in baseball history?" as you suggest. They might actually be, but I doubt it cause of the WS title in 05.

I don't think anyone was advocating go after Shields entering the 2014-15 offseason.

 

This is almost two full seasons later...everyone could see his stuff degrading with KC in 2013 and especially the following year. There's just no way you can throw 200+ innings for so many consecutive seasons without it catching up to you. It even took a huge toll on Buehrle, who never got by with his arsenal of pitches alone.

I'll chime in here - I thought Shields made more sense than Samardzija.

Betrayed

My attitude is what new ? The Sox have been the sorriest franchise in baseball history. The only team to have ever been caught throwing a World Series . All the lifetime bans from that . Disco demolition, fans attacking umpires. Cheap terrible or no money owners odd uniforms and I'm sure I'm not remembering some stuff. Oh yea a midget batting . One World Series win in forever . But I'm stuck with them and that won't ever change.

 

Don't forget...

 

Debacle with original reaction to new stadium...upper deck, seat colors, etc.

Collared jerseys/shorts/83 jerseys, which are actually kinda okay now.

SportsVision

Getting rid of Harry Caray

Reputation of SouthSide for crime in 70's 80's early 90s

White Flag trade

Ligue Jr. attack on Royals' 1b coach Tom Gamboa

1994 strike largely caused by owner when Sox had one of the best teams in baseball

Dunn/LaRoche/Shields historically bad seasons

Veeck desperation promotions

Ozzie Guillen feuding with KW and often drunk at the end, bolting for Marlins

Sale knife cutting

The Will to Win promotions right when the Sox start to fall apart

Firing LaRussa, which also led to Leyland departing

Harrelson as GM, Don Kessinger as player manager

Dave Dombrowski also departing, would become HoF GM

Carlos Quentin breaking his hamate bone, self inflicted

Say It Aint So Joe

Getting stuck behind the Yankees for so many years when there was only one pennant winner in the 50's and 60's

Beckham, Viciedo, Brian Anderson, Josh Fields, Joe Borchard...and pretty much every position player drafted for the past 10-15 years not developing

Tito Landrum, Jerry Dybs, etc.

 

The crazy thing is that if you go from 1990-2006/08/10/12, we had the third best record in base in baseball behind the Braves, Yankees...depending on which years, Cards and Red Sox catch up eventually..but really only 2005 to show for it in the postseason

Edited September 4, 20169 yr by caulfield12

My attitude is what new ? The Sox have been the sorriest franchise in baseball history. The only team to have ever been caught throwing a World Series . All the lifetime bans from that . Disco demolition, fans attacking umpires. Cheap terrible or no money owners odd uniforms and I'm sure I'm not remembering some stuff. Oh yea a midget batting . One World Series win in forever . But I'm stuck with them and that won't ever change.

 

The midget by the way was when Bill Veeck owned the St. Louis Browns...not the White Sox. His name was Eddie Gaedel.

 

Mark

The midget by the way was when Bill Veeck owned the St. Louis Browns...not the White Sox. His name was Eddie Gaedel.

 

Mark

Thanks, knew Veeck was the owner . No wonder that popped in my head last because it wasn't the Sox.

Don't forget...

 

Debacle with original reaction to new stadium...upper deck, seat colors, etc.

Collared jerseys/shorts/83 jerseys, which are actually kinda okay now.

SportsVision

Getting rid of Harry Caray

Reputation of SouthSide for crime in 70's 80's early 90s

White Flag trade

Ligue Jr. attack on Royals' 1b coach Tom Gamboa

1994 strike largely caused by owner when Sox had one of the best teams in baseball

Dunn/LaRoche/Shields historically bad seasons

Veeck desperation promotions

Ozzie Guillen feuding with KW and often drunk at the end, bolting for Marlins

Sale knife cutting

The Will to Win promotions right when the Sox start to fall apart

Firing LaRussa, which also led to Leyland departing

Harrelson as GM, Don Kessinger as player manager

Dave Dombrowski also departing, would become HoF GM

Carlos Quentin breaking his hamate bone, self inflicted

Say It Aint So Joe

Getting stuck behind the Yankees for so many years when there was only one pennant winner in the 50's and 60's

Beckham, Viciedo, Brian Anderson, Josh Fields, Joe Borchard...and pretty much every position player drafted for the past 10-15 years not developing

Tito Landrum, Jerry Dybs, etc.

 

The crazy thing is that if you go from 1990-2006/08/10/12, we had the third best record in base in baseball behind the Braves, Yankees...depending on which years, Cards and Red Sox catch up eventually..but really only 2005 to show for it in the postseason

Eh you repeated some things I already said like the unis, 1919, fan attack ( even though I said ump you're right it was the 1st base coach)and Veeck ownership though he had no money he could be attributed for the Sox remaining in Chicago if I am remembering correctly.

 

The other stuff you mention like bad players and firing people and bad hirings I just chalk up to things that make bad teams bad but not embarrassments.