He's picked right up where he left off in September. I'd love to know what he hit against curve balls in AA as a lefty since that is supposed to be his strong side..

 

What he have, a whopping 20 PA at age 21 in MLB?

 

Just a protip for Sox fans: we haven't had a position player prospect this highly rated by every service since probably...well, ever. Relax. Let the kid develop. His bat is gonna play. If he can make more plays like he did today at 2B he's a star.

Edited February 28, 20179 yr by chitownsportsfan

What he have, a whopping 20 PA at age 21 in MLB?

 

Just a protip for Sox fans: we haven't had a position player prospect this highly rated by every service since probably...well, ever. Relax. Let the kid develop. His bat is gonna play. If he can make more plays like he did today at 2B he's a star.

I also find it interesting and important to note that in his first English interview at Spring Training he said he top skill was his speed. Dude sure is gonna be interesting to follow for his career.

What he have, a whopping 20 PA at age 21 in MLB?

 

Just a protip for Sox fans: we haven't had a position player prospect this highly rated by every service since probably...well, ever. Relax. Let the kid develop. His bat is gonna play. If he can make more plays like he did today at 2B he's a star.

 

In real terms, we probably haven't had a guy this highly thought of since either Frank Thomas or Robin Ventura.

In real terms, we probably haven't had a guy this highly thought of since either Frank Thomas or Robin Ventura.

not a good end result, but borchard was close

In real terms, we probably haven't had a guy this highly thought of since either Frank Thomas or Robin Ventura.

 

Beckham was pretty highly thought of on this board. I remember Harold Reynolds list of young players, calling him a future hall of famer as well.

Beckham was pretty highly thought of on this board. I remember Harold Reynolds list of young players, calling him a future hall of famer as well.

 

I know Gordo had some hype, but never top of the heap.

I know Gordo had some hype, but never top of the heap.

 

Beckham was rated #20 by BA, which was much than most other services FWIW. Frank was rated #29 by BA. RV was rated #15 by BA.

 

So, no, the Sox have not had a even a top 10 position player prospect, let alone universally top #3 and in some lists #1.

 

I looked briefly last night before posting that, and that was what the edit was. Initially I compared him to Frank, but Frank ascended once he got into MLB and hit the cover off the ball -- as a prospect he was merely "very good" not elite.

He was ranked #29 preseason. At the time of his call up Frank was .323/.487/.581. He was a top 10 prospect.

What he have, a whopping 20 PA at age 21 in MLB?

 

Just a protip for Sox fans: we haven't had a position player prospect this highly rated by every service since probably...well, ever. Relax. Let the kid develop. His bat is gonna play. If he can make more plays like he did today at 2B he's a star.

Probably since Joe Borchard (I think Borchard is the highest rate position prospect the Sox have had since Frank Thomas). Gordon Beckham probably would have gotten pretty high on lists if he hadn't gotten moved up so fast that he kind of lost "prospect" status before ever getting to take advantage of where he stood (but at his peak...he probably would have been top 10-15..again not where Moncada ranks). Pitching wise, I believe Jon Rauch was the highest rated pitching prospect the organization has had until Giolito (from a pure publication perspective).

Moncada is a guy that got a taste of big league time on a playoff team last year. Not sure he will be the guy that stays down all season.

I thought this was an interest read (dates back to 2014). Most curious was the 2007 list and who was listed as a bust (vs. say a Brandon Wood / Cameron Maybin). In general, always decent reality check looking at these type of lists and also even the other noteable guys from top 100 and often times it is the other people in top 100 who emerge better.

 

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/67202234/

I thought this was an interest read (dates back to 2014). Most curious was the 2007 list and who was listed as a bust (vs. say a Brandon Wood / Cameron Maybin). In general, always decent reality check looking at these type of lists and also even the other noteable guys from top 100 and often times it is the other people in top 100 who emerge better.

 

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/67202234/

 

Maybe Hahns plan to get the top of the elite guys is flawed then? He should be trying to get quantity instead of quality? Thanks for making me doubt the whole damn rebuilding plan.

Maybe Hahns plan to get the top of the elite guys is flawed then? He should be trying to get quantity instead of quality? Thanks for making me doubt the whole damn rebuilding plan.

Remember though...the not top 10 guys consistent of 90 guys, so higher bust rate. In general, I tend to view it as you want as many top 100 guys as possible (more elite better, but also remember, the ranking is a static ranking and variables can move relatively quickly, especially as guys can explode onto / off of the scene relatively quickly (especially if they have major flaws, etc). Prospect evaluation has a combination of art and science and it certainly isn't a definitive thing and there are a lot of variables, including the fact, that sometimes, people can just be flat lucky.

Maybe Hahns plan to get the top of the elite guys is flawed then? He should be trying to get quantity instead of quality? Thanks for making me doubt the whole damn rebuilding plan.

He needs to get guys who haven't peaked, recognize talent, understand value, and be able to, at least to some extent, separate the real prospects from the frauds.

Edited February 28, 20179 yr by GreenSox