July 16, 20178 yr Does anybody else find it strange that Rodon is the fifth starter out of the break? I know he's coming back from injury. But if he's ready to go why would you make him your fifth starter after the break? I believe know he pitched on the weekend of the Colorado series (Sunday, I believe), but why make him sit 10 days between starts and send chum like Shields, Pelfrey and Holland out there first? Time for Rodon to step forward and not be babied.
July 16, 20178 yr QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) Does anybody else find it strange that Rodon is the fifth starter out of the break? I know he's coming back from injury. But if he's ready to go why would you make him your fifth starter after the break? I believe know he pitched on the weekend of the Colorado series (Sunday, I believe), but why make him sit 10 days between starts and send chum like Shields, Pelfrey and Holland out there first? Time for Rodon to step forward and not be babied. Limit his innings and tank for a top three draft pick next year.
July 16, 20178 yr QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 05:10 PM) Limit his innings and tank for a top three draft pick next year. His inning have already been limited by being on the shelf for 3 months.
July 16, 20178 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) His inning have already been limited by being on the shelf for 3 months. Given the mystery surrounding his injury, I'd think the Sox want to be very careful with him for the rest of this season if for no other reason then to protect his future trade value (given who his agent is and that he'll be taking him to free agency...)
July 16, 20178 yr QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 06:35 PM) Given the mystery surrounding his injury, I'd think the Sox want to be very careful with him for the rest of this season if for no other reason then to protect his future trade value (given who his agent is and that he'll be taking him to free agency...) If he pitches 75 innings this year and 100 innings next year then I'm not trading jack for him.
July 17, 20178 yr Doesn't matter with Rodon, these guys are headed to the bottom of the American League with the worst record for this year, 2018 and maybe 2019. Edited July 17, 20178 yr by The Mighty Mite
July 17, 20178 yr QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 07:18 PM) Doesn't matter with Rodon, these guys are headed to the bottom of the American League with the worst record for this year, 2018 and maybe 2019. Good.
July 17, 20178 yr Author I get the tanking. I get being conservative with him after he missed time with injuries. But at this point, he should clearly be the best pitcher on the team. To bring him out in the fifth game back, 10 days between starts just seems lame. Edited July 17, 20178 yr by winninguglyin83
July 17, 20178 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 06:44 PM) If he pitches 75 innings this year and 100 innings next year then I'm not trading jack for him. Would you trade for him injured because the Sox forced him to pitch too much?
July 17, 20178 yr The White Sox want to trade James Shields, Derek Holland, Mike Pelfrey, and Miguel Gonzalez. They do not want to trade Carlos Rodon. They would trade Rodon if the correct offer came, but it won't. Assuming my math is correct, by setting up the rotation the way they did, other teams have 3 games to see the first 4 pitchers. They have 2 games to see Rodon. It's that simple.
July 17, 20178 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 01:14 AM) The White Sox want to trade James Shields, Derek Holland, Mike Pelfrey, and Miguel Gonzalez. They do not want to trade Carlos Rodon. They would trade Rodon if the correct offer came, but it won't. Assuming my math is correct, by setting up the rotation the way they did, other teams have 3 games to see the first 4 pitchers. They have 2 games to see Rodon. It's that simple. I like the attempt but I highly doubt CWS is able to move any of those first 4
July 17, 20178 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 05:44 PM) If he pitches 75 innings this year and 100 innings next year then I'm not trading jack for him. Never said anything about limiting him next year. Assuming he's healthy it's a full go. Edited July 17, 20178 yr by Lip Man 1
July 17, 20178 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) I like the attempt but I highly doubt CWS is able to move any of those first 4 I think they will. The Astros could use some back of the rotation help with the performance, injuries, and suspensions they are dealing with. The Nationals could be looking for someone to step in for Ross to give them some innings. The Dbacks may want to get some insurance for some of their young pitching for the second half. There are going to be opportunities to make some deals involving those guys in the next two weeks, the returns won't be anything that seems incredible, but you can get some reclamation projects (like a Kahnle) and see if you can make anything out of them.
July 17, 20178 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 16, 2017 -> 08:35 PM) Would you trade for him injured because the Sox forced him to pitch too much? If he can't pitch then why am I trading anything for him in the first place?
July 18, 20178 yr QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) I like the attempt but I highly doubt CWS is able to move any of those first 4 That doesn't change the fact they want to and they need to give scouts every chance to see them if they want to.
July 18, 20178 yr Author Nobody is taking Shields and his contract. Pelfrey is chum Holland has been awful since mid May. Gonzo might work for a team that is desperate. I think they're just babying Rodon.
July 18, 20178 yr QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 17, 2017 -> 11:57 PM) Nobody is taking Shields and his contract. Pelfrey is chum Holland has been awful since mid May. Gonzo might work for a team that is desperate. I think they're just babying Rodon. You a poet and thou don't even know it
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