Jose Abreu Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Jerksticks said: Ugh. Reporting like this sucks Fegan is much better than most alternatives but you have to learn to read his analysis while assuming that everything written has been lined with an extra layer of pessimism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Jerksticks said: I feel ya. I guess it just seems premature for any amount of downside to me. The evidence says his arm cannot handle a typical workload right now, AND his velocity is down. So all I can conclude at this point is that his arm isn’t ready. Concern of any kind seems a year early, so reporting that “concern is fair” seems inaccurate to me and unnecessarily alarmist. I’m probably reading a negative tone that isn’t intended to be there 🤠🌮 I feel ya but you know any fan who follows whats happening to Burdi and sees that he's been shut down for general fatigue pretty much automatically the alarm bells in your head go off .Any time even a healthy pitcher goes down with a vague reason like that it makes you wonder then it doubles for a guy coming back from surgery even though we know its part of the process. Fegan is only mentioning what most of us are thinking. Maybe we all need to become more familiar with a timeline for recovery . Maybe you can do that while also explaining just because there's a timeline doesn't mean it's a linear process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 46 minutes ago, zisk said: Would someone post some good news please? I wouldn't even care if it was made up. Sox sign Manny Machado........ Hahn steps on Machado's heel at press conference and ruptures Machado's achilles tendon. Machado out for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/zack-burdi-enters-offseason-healthy/c-300184132 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 19 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Not only that but total lack of baseball knowledge and perspective. We just watched a World Series where Eovaldi was throwing 101 after 2 Tommy John surgeries. How much time did he miss ? How many set backs did he have ? How many times was he fatigued ? Are we going to hearing the same shit when Kopoch's return doesn't go in some linear ,orderly fashion to suit the internet Nazi's ? This post I find ironic because my first concern was the challenges during the recovery period between TJ surgeries. They knew enough not to push Zack beyond the normal discomfort level at this stage which is good. Also a shout-out to all the posters including Kopech in the 2020 rotation. You have to stock many arms and hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 13 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/zack-burdi-enters-offseason-healthy/c-300184132 From that article: "It kind of showed me I'm on the right track," Burdi said. "Everything is good, trusting the process. ... I was really excited with the Fall League and my five outings. "I faced a lot of guys that were big name dudes in their respective organizations and had really competitive at-bats. There's a lot of positives to take away. At the end of the day, the whole point was to end the recovery healthy, and we did that. It was time to shut it down after a long 15 months of rehab and throwing. Definitely happy that I'm healthy going into the offseason." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: From that article: "It kind of showed me I'm on the right track," Burdi said. "Everything is good, trusting the process. ... I was really excited with the Fall League and my five outings. "I faced a lot of guys that were big name dudes in their respective organizations and had really competitive at-bats. There's a lot of positives to take away. At the end of the day, the whole point was to end the recovery healthy, and we did that. It was time to shut it down after a long 15 months of rehab and throwing. Definitely happy that I'm healthy going into the offseason." Not nearly as doom & gloom as James Fegan has been suggesting. Obviously I’m still concerned, but do feel a little better after reading that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Anybody aware how long it takes guys to get their velocity back after TJs, typically? Obviously it isn't a guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/zack-burdi-enters-offseason-healthy/c-300184132 Who the F tweets at a professional athlete to b**** at him about his velocity 15 months after TJS? Come on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Luis Roberts will play in the Arizona Fall Stars game on Saturday on MLB network Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) Was watching the fall stars game that I dvr'd . Robert grounded out to third his 1st Ab against Forrest Whitley in the 2nd inning. Right behind the plate was a guy holding a sign that said" White Sox sign Manny Machado" which I surmised was a plea rather than a statement of fact . Wonder if it's a Soxtalker. So Robert went 0/4 with 2 K's. Definitely looked like they were trying to jam him and he couldn't lay off the ones that weren't strikes. Edited November 4, 2018 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside added Roberts last 3 AB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I think it is a given that any org would have 2-3 guys in recovery from TJ working their way back. It would also explain why Coop is not big on velocity as his top focus. Not all arms are going to respond well trying to add 3-5 mph to their fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Sorry I suck at clipping comments, but Longenhagen seems quite down on Burdi: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/eric-longenhagen-chat-11-8-18/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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