I know it is early, but the jackassery has been out in full form for your Chicago White Sox already. Poor fundamentals and boneheaded plays in both games. 

This seems like a recurrent issue with the club. Maybe it sticks out more when the team is trash. When is the last fundamentally sound White Sox club you can remember? Was it really 05, maybe 06? 

Also, what the hell is the reasoning behind it? Bad players? Dumb players? Poor coaching?

2012. Best coached team I have ever watched. Midseason they were in first place and I thought that had they been as sloppy as any normal white sox team, they'd have been below .500 instead. 

IDK, but it's been a long time. While you don't expect winning seasons from garbage rosters - what the Sox have gotten in terms of potential, development and fundamentals has been terrible in recent years. I think they are overdue for a clean wipe of all major league coaches.

2008.  Under Ventura, the Sox got sloppy and have stayed consistently bad.  

1919.

4 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

2012. Best coached team I have ever watched. Midseason they were in first place and I thought that had they been as sloppy as any normal white sox team, they'd have been below .500 instead. 

This is what I'll never understand. Ventura came out the gate looking like a great manager.

Then just everything went so far off the rails.

3 hours ago, Quin said:

This is what I'll never understand. Ventura came out the gate looking like a great manager.

Then just everything went so far off the rails.

I have one guess that's at least plausible. The 2012 White Sox broke down the stretch. They were legitimately exhausted. They were exhausted because their pitching staff was so young - Sale had spent 2011 in the bullpen, Quintana called up straight from A ball. But...imagine that Ventura blames himself and thinks he worked them too hard in the spring of that year, so he decides to take it easier on everyone in the spring in 2013. The same players who were doing basic things like hitting a cutoff man or completing a rundown in 1 throw are out of practice in 2013 and everything turns into a circus.

By 2014, Ventura's got his new contract and everyone sorta likes the low effort, no pressure, few practice format, so they just run with it - and by early 2014 things that should have been corrected in the spring still linger because no one bothered to work with people. Garcia has no idea how to slide for a ball, but no one coaches him, so he goes diving for a ball and is lucky that he doesn't destroy his shoulder. No one on the coaching staff bothers doing anything about it, and 2 weeks later he does the same thing and destroys his shoulder, costing him nearly the whole season. Abreu somehow makes it to mid-April without anyone noticing that hey, he has no idea where to put his foot on a throw to 1b until he almost gets himself spiked (seriously, did no one bother coaching the 1b from February 20 to April 20 of that year?). By that point, the whole coaching staff has just checked out, and we never really got out of that mode. 

I don't know if this is how it went down...but it's the only guess I have for how that 2012 team could turn into the 2013-2016 Ventura teams, in some cases with the same players. 

4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

1919.

Waiting on the 100 anniversary tribute day.  

2005 to me was the last season they looked solid fundamentally offensively and defensively.

It's a shame given the history of this franchise with regards to fundamentals, defense, speed and pitching. Al Lopez and Eddie Stanky wouldn't comprehend what they were seeing out there today if they were still around.

54 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

2005 to me was the last season they looked solid fundamentally offensively and defensively.

It's a shame given the history of this franchise with regards to fundamentals, defense, speed and pitching. Al Lopez and Eddie Stanky wouldn't comprehend what they were seeing out there today if they were still around.

Same here.  I think AJ had a better grasp of the game being a former Twin.  As for being on the mound no current Sox pitcher has the fundamentals compared to #54.