October 17, 200322 yr Have a nice night, I held up as long as I could. Well done. Steve.. I just gotta say that was some fun last night. I was in a pissy mood cause I had been at work for 13 hours AND had to take work home... You got caught in the crossfire Hope there are no hard feelings. No no, that was fun. Ya had me too, I was just trying to keep my head above water for a lil bit there. I hadn't shown a great deal of concentration at the beginning. Ahhh.. lack of concentration. That will get ya every time Stick with me Stevo.. I'll show you all my secrets If you're lucky Hey now.. I said I'd give you my "30" tips. So far it's been pretty uneventful..
October 17, 200322 yr Wax on, wax off. By the way, I thought we were using the right term of bias. I don't know if you noticed, but I write 'ya' instead of 'you' sometimes too. It is just habit, but I wouldn't think it confuses anyone, I think everyone knew what we meant last night. Tomato... tamato
October 17, 200322 yr Tomato... tamato Ever see the Friends episode where Joey goes "dinosaur, dragon" how tomato tomato is used. I loved that line.
October 17, 200322 yr He was incorrect in saying "bias" was not a word. Never said that. Can I shout to the world that you're a liar now? Whatever floats your boat. But before you do...... QUOTE (IlliniBob72 @ Oct 16 2003, 11:07 PM) I really hate to pick on grammar and spelling...I really do, but I have to say this because it's driving me nuts. Nobody is "bias". People are "biased", not "bias". Thank you. Carry on. You said we were wrong.. in usage - that better? Much.
October 17, 200322 yr Hey Clu... you're a liar. http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7842&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7760&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7351&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7292&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7207&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7248&hl= There's more to. And there's a real gem in there where you were wavering... Steff, I have no idea if you are being sincere or if this is one of your psycho babble sessions, but where in this list of links am I "wavering"? Just like most everyone here, I have a "guilty" or "not guilty" in my head, but that of course can change. Everything that I've heard so far points to "not guilty" IMO, but, we'll have to wait and see what evidence the DA supposedly has. = me on July 21 But at this point, hearing some of the stuff about this girl, I just don't see it as rape. LIKE I SAID, the evidence has yet to be made public, so for all we know it could be cut and dry that he's guilty. It's ALL speculation at this point, and on a message board, that's what we're going to do -- speculate and give our opinions and thoughts. I would appreciate it if you didn't try to liken me to a rapist just because I happen to be siding with "not guilty" as of July 21, 2003 at 9:10 am. = me again on July 21 I've never said Kobe is 100% innocent. He's guilty of adultery. To me, that's not 100% innocence. But, in regards to the charge of sexual assault, yes, I do think he is innocent. So shoot me. Show me where I said it was the girl's fault. If he raped her, she put herself in a bad situation by going to his room, BUT it's not her fault that it happened. Also, if it was consentual sex like Kobe stated, it's nobody's fault...it's just something that happens far too often in this country. And I've NEVER said this is a set-up. That implies that the DA, sheriff, and the girl collaborated and made this whole thing up and then carried it out. I do, though, think that it's a strong possibility that this girl is taking a consentual act and turning it into rape. = me yet again on July 21 Well, as you can tell by my posts on this topic, I don't think he did it either. However, I was shocked when he admitted to adultery, so I suppose anything is possible. But, if I had to bet on it, I'd lay my money on the "not guilty" side of the table. = me on July 21 Yeah Steff, I reallllllllllllllllly wavered. All I ever said that could even be remotely mistaken for "wavering" was that we would have to wait and see and that I am disappointed in Kobe. That is hardly wavering. So, for calling me a liar and trying to use BS quotes by me as "evidence", :fyou.
October 17, 200322 yr You're a LIAR cause you said the posts were not there. C'mon Clu... get one. Ane yes, IMO, you wavered. You said you were convinced of his innocence from the start. Clearly.. you were covering your ass in the begining. No big deal.. I was doing the same in not making a statement either way. Liar, liar pants on fire.
October 20, 200322 yr Judge rules that teh "Golden Boy" will stand trial for rape. I don't know a lot of the details but it sounds like Mr. Bryant could be in some big trouble. Blood on the victims clothes? But I though OJ was guilty...I mean I still think he is, but...ah fuggetaboutit.
October 21, 200322 yr Judge rules that teh "Golden Boy" will stand trial for rape. I don't know a lot of the details but it sounds like Mr. Bryant could be in some big trouble. Blood on the victims clothes? But I though OJ was guilty...I mean I still think he is, but...ah fuggetaboutit. The burden of proof is so minimal at the preliminary. Unless there is some serious bombshell that has yet to be revealed.. I say he's got nothing to worry about. However.. if his attny's can't produce other men thay are implying she slept with.. there goes the credibility and that will hurt his case a lot. Should be interesting.
October 21, 200322 yr Judge rules that teh "Golden Boy" will stand trial for rape. I don't know a lot of the details but it sounds like Mr. Bryant could be in some big trouble. Blood on the victims clothes? But I though OJ was guilty...I mean I still think he is, but...ah fuggetaboutit. The burden of proof is so minimal at the preliminary. Unless there is some serious bombshell that has yet to be revealed.. I say he's got nothing to worry about. However.. if his attny's can't produce other men thay are implying she slept with.. there goes the credibility and that will hurt his case a lot. Should be interesting. yeah prelim is "sufficent evidence for trial" and at the trial the burden of proof is "beyond a resonable doubt" Big, big difference.
October 22, 200322 yr In case it hasn't been said, Bryant has been ordered to stand trial. Also it sounds like he will get to play at least most of the season, if not all of it.
October 22, 200322 yr That has to be stuff we haven't heard from both sides. He will play alot of games this year, but I wonder how it will effect him. His knee surgury over the offseason has set him back, and he is not in great shape. I do not see him being the same player this year (he will be a star, but not to the level where he has established himself).
November 18, 200322 yr The prosecution is hiring a sex crimes specialist. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1664823
November 19, 200322 yr Author Kobe may have to be tested to HIV according to Colorado law. LINK Not really big news but it is related to the trial.
November 26, 200322 yr The girl in this case has checked into a rehab center. The tabloids and media have essentially ruined this girls life, if Kobe didn't. http://www.msnbc.com/news/997934.asp?0cv=CB20
November 26, 200322 yr Kobe may have to be tested to HIV according to Colorado law. LINK Not really big news but it is related to the trial. It's SOP. Should have never made the papers. Stupid media.
December 9, 200322 yr Heard this bit on the radio today. The Eagle County Sheriff's Dept is being investigated for charges that they had T-Shirts made showing Kobe Bryant being hanged.
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