fathom Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, flavum said: Nice couple wins coming home. And now the Indians and Blue Jays again, because that makes sense in a 6 month season. Yeah I hate the “home and home”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: Again, I have no clue how one bad game = major funk. He was on a hot streak entering today for crying out loud Define hot streak. His OPS is below 700 for the month of May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Current version of Yoan doesn’t have the hit tool to be a .300 hitter. If he hits in the .265 range with extra base hit capabilities, walks and steals, then he will be a good player. I don't at all think he will hit .300, but if he can increase slightly on last year's power numbers (which it looks like he already has), and keep the Ks around 25%, he will be a good player. Not a superstar, but good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, OneDog847 said: Define hot streak. His OPS is below 700 for the month of May. The month of May has been like 10 games, so if we're pretending that such small samples matter, then he had reached base 5 times in 10 plate appearances entering today. Hot streak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Again, I have no clue how one bad game = major funk. He was on a hot streak entering today for crying out loud I'm not trying to be an asshole, but that's just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, The Sir said: I don't at all think he will hit .300, but if he can increase slightly on last year's power numbers (which it looks like he already has), and keep the Ks around 25%, he will be a good player. Not a superstar, but good. If his K-rate is 25% and his home run output/BABIP remain near his career levels, then he will hit pretty close to .300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: If his K-rate is 25% and his home run output/BABIP remain near his career levels, then he will hit pretty close to .300 Also not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: If his K-rate is 25% and his home run output/BABIP remain near his career levels, then he will hit pretty close to .300 ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Sir said: I don't at all think he will hit .300, but if he can increase slightly on last year's power numbers (which it looks like he already has), and keep the Ks around 25%, he will be a good player. Not a superstar, but good. Sox kinda need him to be a superstar though. Kid was the former #1 prospect in baseball. He needs to live up to the hype. The Sox are going to need a couple 5 plus WAR players if they ever expect to make any serious noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, The Sir said: Also not true. Mathematically, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Sir said: Also not true. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: The month of May has been like 10 games, so if we're pretending that such small samples matter, then he had reached base 5 times in 10 plate appearances entering today. Hot streak! Awesome. Sounds like he is a lock to win AL player of the week then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Mathematically, it is. Mathematically, it's not. Player A is Moncada's Sox career thus far. Player B is Moncada's Sox career thus far, adjusted to a 25% k-rate with enough singles added in to have his standard .340 BABIP. He hits .268. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Moncada's early season adjustments are being used against him right now. If he was using Last year's approach he's be on a hot streak. It's obvious. They're pitching him just off the edges of the zone/ and throwing changeups for strikes early in the count. and he's swinging at pitches he wouldn't have last year. He has to only be aggressive on meatballs right now and go back to last year's approach. If he can change his approach based once they identify how people are trying to get him out at a given time period, he's going to explode. This isn't his job, it is the Sox advance scouts job to feed him the info. They've been doing it for weeks. This is what I'm talking about when I say that they're not giving their hitters the tools they need to be successful. Edited May 12, 2019 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: Sox kinda need him to be a superstar though. Kid was the former #1 prospect in baseball. He needs to live up to the hype. The Sox are going to need a couple 5 plus WAR players if they ever expect to make any serious noise. Anderson and McCann, done 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, The Sir said: Mathematically, it's not. Player A is Moncada's Sox career thus far. Player B is Moncada's Sox career thus far, adjusted to a 25% k-rate with enough singles added in to have his standard .340 BABIP. He hits .268. This is incorrect because you're using his entire Sox career, meaning you're not accounting for an increase in home run rate, and you also lowered his BABIP by 5 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Using his career .345 BABIP, take a 25% K-rate and the average goes to .25875. Using his home run rate of .0305, which is probably a little low relative to where it will be for the rest of his career, over a 704 PA sample, the average goes to .280. Edited May 12, 2019 by Jose Abreu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Anderson and McCann, done 😉 Ha. Would be pretty damn crazy if McCann puts up 5 WAR this year and Eloy ends up a negative WAR player. Bizarro world Jerry, Bizzaro world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: This is incorrect because you're using his entire Sox career, meaning you're not accounting for an increase in home run rate, and you also lowered his BABIP by 5 points. Yeah, my calculator isn't perfect because I disregard SFs/SHs/HBPs, but even adjusting his BABIP to .344, his BA in scenario B only climbs to .271. And increased homerun rate will increase his OPS, but have no effect on BA. You were wrong. It's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: Ha. Would be pretty damn crazy if McCann puts up 5 WAR this year and Eloy ends up a negative WAR player. Bizarro world Jerry, Bizzaro world. Eloy's never going to be a high-WAR player because of his defense, or lack thereof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, The Sir said: Yeah, my calculator isn't perfect because I disregard SFs/SHs/HBPs, but even adjusting his BABIP to .344, his BA in scenario B only climbs to .271. And increased homerun rate will increase his OPS, but have no effect on BA. You were wrong. It's ok. A home run is not a ball in play, therefore it does affect his BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba phillips Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Hmm, I believe there's a separate Moncada thread out there with 92 pages of comments. No need to waste 2 pages of this game thread with more stuff about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, OneDog847 said: Ha. Would be pretty damn crazy if McCann puts up 5 WAR this year and Eloy ends up a negative WAR player. Bizarro world Jerry, Bizzaro world. Or if Giolito put up 4 WAR season after a negative WAR season last year and negative for his career pre-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just now, bubba phillips said: Hmm, I believe there's a separate Moncada thread out there with 92 pages of comments. No need to waste 2 pages of this game thread with more stuff about him. The game is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Sir said: Yeah, my calculator isn't perfect because I disregard SFs/SHs/HBPs, but even adjusting his BABIP to .344, his BA in scenario B only climbs to .271. And increased homerun rate will increase his OPS, but have no effect on BA. You were wrong. It's ok. He wasn't just wrong. He pretty much got straight up pwned lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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