June 4, 20196 yr When is the last time the White Sox had this type of young, controllable talent throughout the organization? Early 1990s? C - James McCann/Zack Collins 1B - Andrew Vaughn 2B - Nick Madrigal 3B - Yoan Moncada SS - Tim Anderson LF - Eloy Jimenez CF - Luis Robert RF - Luis Basabe OF - Charlie Tilson OF - Ryan Cordell INF - Yolmer Sanchez UTIL - Leury Garcia SP - Lucas Giolito SP - Michael Kopech SP - Dylan Cease SP - Dane Dunning SP - Carlos Rodon SP/RP - Reynaldo Lopez CL - Alex Colome RP - Aaron Bummer RP - Jace Fry RP - Evan Marshall RP - Hansen, Hamilton, Thompson, Burdi, etc. Those guys are all 30 and under and controllable through next season at a minimum. Pretty impressive list.
June 4, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: When is the last time the White Sox had this type of young, controllable talent throughout the organization? Early 1990s? C - James McCann/Zack Collins 1B - Andrew Vaughn 2B - Nick Madrigal 3B - Yoan Moncada SS - Tim Anderson LF - Eloy Jimenez CF - Luis Robert RF - Luis Basabe OF - Charlie Tilson OF - Ryan Cordell INF - Yolmer Sanchez UTIL - Leury Garcia SP - Lucas Giolito SP - Michael Kopech SP - Dylan Cease SP - Dane Dunning SP - Carlos Rodon SP/RP - Reynaldo Lopez CL - Alex Colome RP - Aaron Bummer RP - Jace Fry RP - Evan Marshall RP - Hansen, Hamilton, Thompson, Burdi, etc. Those guys are all 30 and under and controllable through next season at a minimum. Pretty impressive list. You left out Pilkington, Bush, Sheets, Walker and Rutherford. They're all still legit prospects.
June 4, 20196 yr Author 18 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: You left out Pilkington, Bush, Sheets, Walker and Rutherford. They're all still legit prospects. There’s a dozen or so legit prospects I left out but just trying to highlight the top prospects as well as those already contributing at the big league level.
June 4, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: When is the last time the White Sox had this type of young, controllable talent throughout the organization? Early 1990s? C - James McCann/Zack Collins 1B - Andrew Vaughn 2B - Nick Madrigal 3B - Yoan Moncada SS - Tim Anderson LF - Eloy Jimenez CF - Luis Robert RF - Luis Basabe OF - Charlie Tilson OF - Ryan Cordell INF - Yolmer Sanchez UTIL - Leury Garcia SP - Lucas Giolito SP - Michael Kopech SP - Dylan Cease SP - Dane Dunning SP - Carlos Rodon SP/RP - Reynaldo Lopez CL - Alex Colome RP - Aaron Bummer RP - Jace Fry RP - Evan Marshall RP - Hansen, Hamilton, Thompson, Burdi, etc. Those guys are all 30 and under and controllable through next season at a minimum. Pretty impressive list. Without doubt...the answer to the question is NEVER.
June 4, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, poppysox said: Without doubt...the answer to the question is NEVER. I wouldn't say that. How is this for a group of young players? Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura, Jack McDowell, Wilson Alvarez, Alex Fernandez, and yes, Sammy Sosa.
June 4, 20196 yr 33 minutes ago, NWINFan said: I wouldn't say that. How is this for a group of young players? Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura, Jack McDowell, Wilson Alvarez, Alex Fernandez, and yes, Sammy Sosa. And Durham. See also: 2000
June 4, 20196 yr It should be the best period of young talent, considering they turned almost every decent player they had into prospects. And but for a two spells of FO delusion, you could add Tatis, Semien, Phegley, Semien and Bassitt, all of whom would be on the major league roster. Then you would also have to subtract Burdi. Edited June 4, 20196 yr by GreenSox
June 4, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, GreenSox said: It should be the best period of young talent, considering they turned almost every decent player they had into prospects. And but for a two spells of FO delusion, you could add Tatis, Semien, Phegley, Semien and Bassitt, all of whom would be on the major league roster. Then you would also have to subtract Burdi. might as well throw in Gio Gonzalez into that mix as well.
June 4, 20196 yr Author 44 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: And Durham. See also: 2000 I like this group better than the early 2000s personally. I think the early 1990s was better, though, this group may be a bit deeper.
June 4, 20196 yr 29 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: I like this group better than the early 2000s personally. I think the early 1990s was better, though, this group may be a bit deeper. Ordonez, Konerko, Durham, Crede, Foulke, Rowand, Buehrle, Baldwin, Marte... a lot of all star level talent. Plus they had players who people thought would be good but didn't turn out (that will happen with many on the current list) as well as filler similar to Tilson, etc. Edited June 4, 20196 yr by GreenSox
June 4, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, poppysox said: Without doubt...the answer to the question is NEVER. You obviously don't remember the talent pool in the Sox organization in the 50's and early 60's do you? The Sox and Yankees had the two best farm systems in baseball during that time. Edited June 4, 20196 yr by Lip Man 1
June 4, 20196 yr Author 40 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Ordonez, Konerko, Durham, Crede, Foulke, Rowand, Buehrle, Baldwin, Marte... a lot of all star level talent. Plus they had players who people thought would be good but didn't turn out (that will happen with many on the current list) as well as filler similar to Tilson, etc. Without a doubt it was a talented group but I like this group better. I think this group could produce a hall of famer and a few MVP seasons.
June 4, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, GreenSox said: Ordonez, Konerko, Durham, Crede, Foulke, Rowand, Buehrle, Baldwin, Marte... a lot of all star level talent. Plus they had players who people thought would be good but didn't turn out (that will happen with many on the current list) as well as filler similar to Tilson, etc. Wasn't Sirotka part of that group too. He flamed out due to injury, but was good for a while and got us Wells.
June 4, 20196 yr 16 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Wasn't Sirotka part of that group too. He flamed out due to injury, but was good for a while and got us Wells. Yes, this is the most talent the Sox have had since around the turn of the century. People forget how good of a prospect some of the guys that flamed out were, such as Corwin Malone and Jon Rauch. Both were considered potential future Aces. They had arm injuries, and Rauch was able to carve out a short bullpen career. Around 2001 they looked set for a long time. Edited June 4, 20196 yr by Jack Parkman
June 4, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: Yes, this is the most talent the Sox have had since around the turn of the century. People forget how good of a prospect some of the guys that flamed out were, such as Corwin Malone and Jon Rauch. Both were considered potential future Aces. They had arm injuries, and Rauch was able to carve out a short bullpen career. Around 2001 they looked set for a long time. Agree. I'd say on paper this group is as good as the early aughts group. On paper they are slightly better than the early 90s group. But that's just on paper. Generating an inner circle HOFer like Frank seems a tall order.
June 4, 20196 yr 2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Agree. I'd say on paper this group is as good as the early aughts group. On paper they are slightly better than the early 90s group. But that's just on paper. Generating an inner circle HOFer like Frank seems a tall order. If a few guys didn't get injured, the Sox could have won more than one WS in the 2000s. That being said, I'll take the one we got.
June 5, 20196 yr 23 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: You obviously don't remember the talent pool in the Sox organization in the 50's and early 60's do you? The Sox and Yankees had the two best farm systems in baseball during that time. Unfortunately, I remember it well. I started following in 1955. For my money I don't remember this deep a talent pool in those 60+ years. This group looks like it will seriously dominate for a decade.
June 5, 20196 yr The laughing reaction on anything positive got old the second it started. Edited June 5, 20196 yr by mqr
June 5, 20196 yr 57 minutes ago, poppysox said: Unfortunately, I remember it well. I started following in 1955. For my money I don't remember this deep a talent pool in those 60+ years. This group looks like it will seriously dominate for a decade. Maybe, maybe not. Just off the top of my head: Mincher, Cash, Aparicio, Landis, Berry, Hershberger, Peters, Horlen, Locker, Romano, Latman, Battey, McLain. All those guys were signed and developed by the Sox. That's a pretty talented group who went on to have terrific major league careers and again that's just off the top of my head, I probably missed some.
June 5, 20196 yr On 6/4/2019 at 6:46 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: When is the last time the White Sox had this type of young, controllable talent throughout the organization? Early 1990s? C - James McCann/Zack Collins 1B - Andrew Vaughn 2B - Nick Madrigal 3B - Yoan Moncada SS - Tim Anderson LF - Eloy Jimenez CF - Luis Robert RF - Luis Basabe OF - Charlie Tilson OF - Ryan Cordell INF - Yolmer Sanchez UTIL - Leury Garcia SP - Lucas Giolito SP - Michael Kopech SP - Dylan Cease SP - Dane Dunning SP - Carlos Rodon SP/RP - Reynaldo Lopez CL - Alex Colome RP - Aaron Bummer RP - Jace Fry RP - Evan Marshall RP - Hansen, Hamilton, Thompson, Burdi, etc. Those guys are all 30 and under and controllable through next season at a minimum. Pretty impressive list. Found Rick Hahn's burner
June 5, 20196 yr Author 1 minute ago, Orlando said: Found Rick Hahn's burner Haha. Thanks man but you didn’t answer the question.
June 5, 20196 yr I'm not trying to denigrate any of our White Sox hero's of yesterday. But look at the careers of those you mention: Landis .247 lifetime 10 year career 93 HR Peters 124 Wins 103 Loses 3.25 era 13 year career Mincher .249 12 200 Horlen 116 117 3.11 11 Aparico .262 17 83 Locker 57 39 2.75 10 Cash .271 16 377 Lattman 59 68 3.91 9 Berry .255 13 58 Hershberger .252 10 26 Romano .255 9 129 Battey .270 12 104 I think most of todays fans will take the over on their expectations on what todays prospects will achieve. Edited June 5, 20196 yr by poppysox
June 5, 20196 yr You could add Semien, Tatis, Escobar, Montas, Bassit, Devenski had they not traded for veterans from 2011- Spring 2016. . In fact, I'd say they could be WC contenders right now.
June 5, 20196 yr 28 minutes ago, GreenSox said: You could add Semien, Tatis, Escobar, Montas, Bassit, Devenski had they not traded for veterans from 2011- Spring 2016. . In fact, I'd say they could be WC contenders right now. Those trades don't happen and you're still looking at a team trying to make do with Sale, while starting guys like JB shuck in the outfield. No use crying over spilled milk. All this line of thinking does is paralyze you when it's time to make moves. Edited June 5, 20196 yr by mqr
June 5, 20196 yr Our major trades have been great as far as I'm concerned. I don't have as much patience as I should. I want to see the team with all the parts functioning. It has the potential to be the best team any of us has seen. Just a few pieces away now.
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