March 12, 20224 yr Fangraphs has a 45 FV on Ginn and Oller's numbers have him looking like a better version of Lambert. One of the Kanny pitchers taking a leap last year so they'd hold trade value would have been nice.
March 13, 20224 yr wow what a SHITTY return for bassit a) wtf are the A's thinking? b) why didn't the white sox beat that so Bassit could be our 5th starter lmao. i'd trade for bassit AND go after a better SP if i was GM at that price ... this is coming from someone who originally wanted no part of bassit as i think hes boring and not too good Edited March 13, 20224 yr by iWiN4PreP
March 13, 20224 yr Cost the Mets neither a top 100 prospect nor a ML ready player. In the end, it looks like fair market value for a rent-a-pitcher like Bassitt.
March 13, 20224 yr Well at least I was right that that were going to give up some prospects in a trade. But they added another $9M to their payroll so as of now I'm not seeing where exactly they are planning to shed salary in the position players. They must really think they can move McCann but I'd love to get Nimmo for a year.
March 13, 20224 yr 6 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Wonder if Hahn had a seat at the table. Doubtful. The Sox don't have the pitching prospects.
March 13, 20224 yr 7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Doubtful. The Sox don't have the pitching prospects. If you find someone who likes Vera, him being a Ginn equivalent isn't crazy. Would people on here have been okay with Vera and Lambert for 1 year of Bassit? But maybe I'm overrating the Sox guys here. I think it would have been workable, but making trades for good players is (obviously) a lot harder when you have the worst farm system in baseball.
March 13, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said: If you find someone who likes Vera, him being a Ginn equivalent isn't crazy. Would people on here have been okay with Vera and Lambert for 1 year of Bassit? But maybe I'm overrating the Sox guys here. I think it would have been workable, but making trades for good players is (obviously) a lot harder when you have the worst farm system in baseball. The Mets have a lot of good prospects. I think the question is would Oakland be OK with Vera and Lambert? But damn the Sox are dead last in farm systems because of the lack of pitching prospects and any depth among all prospects which is why I wanted prospects and some young MLB talent from the Mets in exchange for the Cano contract because they supposedly wanted to dump some salary and get pitching . Bassitt is an improvement over my idea of Keuchel but it only increases their payroll. Maybe I just overestimated their desire to shed salary based on the reports of it. Cohen might not care about the CBT as much as I thought.
March 13, 20224 yr 12 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: If you find someone who likes Vera, him being a Ginn equivalent isn't crazy. Would people on here have been okay with Vera and Lambert for 1 year of Bassit? But maybe I'm overrating the Sox guys here. I think it would have been workable, but making trades for good players is (obviously) a lot harder when you have the worst farm system in baseball. Vera is much more valuable to the White Sox at this point. He's the one pitcher I would be quite reluctant to trade, with how much older our team has already gotten the last twelve months.
March 13, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Vera is much more valuable to the White Sox at this point. He's the one pitcher I would be quite reluctant to trade, with how much older our team has already gotten the last twelve months. It seems like the Sox will acquire another SP, hopefully it's a good one. If that happens, I think Vera or Jose Rodriguez will have to be involved in the deal. I don't think any of the Kanny pitchers performed well enough to hold much value at this point. Unless, of course, they deal from the major league roster again. Which is certainly possible.
March 13, 20224 yr 32 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: It seems like the Sox will acquire another SP, hopefully it's a good one. If that happens, I think Vera or Jose Rodriguez will have to be involved in the deal. I don't think any of the Kanny pitchers performed well enough to hold much value at this point. Unless, of course, they deal from the major league roster again. Which is certainly possible. I'd actually like to give some of Marco Paddy's signings a chance to do something. Isn't that why the Sox hired him ? Instead we ended up trading He Who Should Always be Named and trading away Intl money on a regular basis and signing older guys instead of 16 and 17 yrs olds like everyone else does.. Yay Hahn and JR. Edited March 13, 20224 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
March 13, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, maxjusttyped said: It seems like the Sox will acquire another SP, hopefully it's a good one. If that happens, I think Vera or Jose Rodriguez will have to be involved in the deal. I don't think any of the Kanny pitchers performed well enough to hold much value at this point. Unless, of course, they deal from the major league roster again. Which is certainly possible. That sounds eerily reminiscent of an ill-fated 2016 trade. The only difference is we're expected to at least advance out of the divisional round this time...as opposed to a 3-5% shot at the post-season.
March 13, 20224 yr Sorry to hear that. I was hoping Reinsdorf would try to right a wrong by resigning him. But again they would have to admit it was a mistake in the first place to let him go which they're not doing. Edited March 13, 20224 yr by GradMc
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