DVS of the Sun-Times gives an honest answer:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/7/13/23793443/whats-next-for-white-sox-well-theres-trade-deadline-not-much-else-as-2nd-half-begins

1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

DVS of the Sun-Times gives an honest answer:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/7/13/23793443/whats-next-for-white-sox-well-theres-trade-deadline-not-much-else-as-2nd-half-begins

“Fans are fed up. A Sun-Times online poll in June asking who is the prime culprit in the Sox’ fourth-place (in the worst division) state assigned blame this way: chairman Jerry Reinsdorf (51%), vice president Ken Williams and general manager Rick Hahn (29%), the players (17%) and first-year manager Pedro Grifol (3%).”
 

That’s just laughable that KW and Hahn would be tied…if Williams has that much control more than a decade later, why even bother?  We all know about TLR not being the top managerial choice for Hahn…but enough already.  The train has left the tracks.

Edited July 13, 20232 yr by caulfield12

35 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

“Fans are fed up. A Sun-Times online poll in June asking who is the prime culprit in the Sox’ fourth-place (in the worst division) state assigned blame this way: chairman Jerry Reinsdorf (51%), vice president Ken Williams and general manager Rick Hahn (29%), the players (17%) and first-year manager Pedro Grifol (3%).”
 

That’s just laughable that KW and Hahn would be tied…if Williams has that much control more than a decade later, why even bother?  We all know about TLR not being the top managerial choice for Hahn…but enough already.  The train has left the tracks.

KW and Hahn aren’t tied, they were listed together as one in the poll

23 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

KW and Hahn aren’t tied, they were listed together as one in the poll

Kinda begs the question of why tho? The Sox really can't kick the idea that KW is still the man behind the curtain. Personally I think he's maybe involved in some scouting but that's it. The Sox should probably just let him and Hahn go at the same time, get two birds stoned with one joint when the time comes.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Kinda begs the question of why tho? The Sox really can't kick the idea that KW is still the man behind the curtain. Personally I think he's maybe involved in some scouting but that's it. The Sox should probably just let him and Hahn go at the same time, get two birds stoned with one joint when the time comes.

That would have made sense to do 10 years ago but we're talking about a Jerry Reinsdorf organization so ?

1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Kinda begs the question of why tho? The Sox really can't kick the idea that KW is still the man behind the curtain. Personally I think he's maybe involved in some scouting but that's it. The Sox should probably just let him and Hahn go at the same time, get two birds stoned with one joint when the time comes.

Because they have presented themselves as that brain trust 

5 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Because they have presented themselves as that brain trust 

 

i know managers don't matter but Pedro deserves way more than a 3 percent vote. My guess is he is somewhere between Bevington and the old LaRussa.

Bring back Renteria and apologize to him for dumping him.

Edited July 14, 20232 yr by greg775

19 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

“Fans are fed up. A Sun-Times online poll in June asking who is the prime culprit in the Sox’ fourth-place (in the worst division) state assigned blame this way: chairman Jerry Reinsdorf (51%), vice president Ken Williams and general manager Rick Hahn (29%), the players (17%) and first-year manager Pedro Grifol (3%).”
 

That’s just laughable that KW and Hahn would be tied…if Williams has that much control more than a decade later, why even bother?  We all know about TLR not being the top managerial choice for Hahn…but enough already.  The train has left the tracks.

The train has left the tracks.