Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Scouts loved Caglianone. Some in the room would’ve picked him. Chris Getz wanted Hagen Smith. Mike Shirley has a history with A&M coach. I don’t think Sox would pass on Laviolette at 10. I also don’t think he’ll be on the board. The data geeks killed Cags. They didn't like his cHaSe rAtE despite only having an 8% k rate. There may or may not be (there is) a text group dedicated to videos of Cags hitting balls 1000 ft. Just another one to file away for the next time they want to kill a really good hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 3 hours ago, Timmy U said: What range does Pancella go in? 3-4 round? He should go around that range and he'd be a great pick there. It's a deep class of hitters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Story of two franchises...Witt Jr. and Caglianone vs. Vaughn and Smith. Two playoff appearances for CWS since 2008 vs. two WS and beating the O's last year and likely headed to postseason 4 in 2025 with all that pitching and a franchise cornerstone not even leaving yet. I can only presume that we would have taken Witt, given the opportunity. Hagen Smith should be good - I doubt he flops. Realistically in 2019, some suggested that we take Abrams...he or Riley Greene would have been helpful. I just remember at the time that I absolutely did not want the Sox to take Bleday. I still think Vaughn looks good at the plate. Maybe we can trade .2 WAR Vaughn for -.1 WAR Baty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: He should go around that range and he'd be a great pick there. It's a deep class of hitters. Good draft to pick first in rounds 2-20. Plenty of bats without reaching. Edited May 11 by GreenSox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 47 minutes ago, GreenSox said: I can only presume that we would have taken Witt, given the opportunity. Hagen Smith should be good - I doubt he flops. Realistically in 2019, some suggested that we take Abrams...he or Riley Greene would have been helpful. I just remember at the time that I absolutely did not want the Sox to take Bleday. I still think Vaughn looks good at the plate. Maybe we can trade .2 WAR Vaughn for -.1 WAR Baty. LaViolette is a very similar player to Bleday but Bleday didn't K as much and had better production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 9 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Are you saying Chris Getz overruled his scouts? Or what are you saying here? I don’t know that he overruled anyone necessarily. He decided which player to take in his first draft as GM though. It’s pretty common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 7 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I don’t know that he overruled anyone necessarily. He decided which player to take in his first draft as GM though. It’s pretty common. I agree it’s common, and I’m fine with the Hagen pick, but I wish they’d stay out of it. I trust Shirley’s evaluations more than Getz’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 16 hours ago, GreenSox said: I can only presume that we would have taken Witt, given the opportunity. Hagen Smith should be good - I doubt he flops. Realistically in 2019, some suggested that we take Abrams...he or Riley Greene would have been helpful. I just remember at the time that I absolutely did not want the Sox to take Bleday. I still think Vaughn looks good at the plate. Maybe we can trade .2 WAR Vaughn for -.1 WAR Baty. Huge difference in Baty's future costs vs. Vaughn though. Baty is 2B 3B, which is our deepest position organizationally. If he could actually play SS, sure, go for it. Or he would be shifted to first...but Baty has not been a huge power and run producer up until this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) Mock 3.0 today over at BA. Will post through the Sox. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2025-mlb-mock-draft-3-0-first-round-pick-predictions-for-every-team/ Quote 1.) Nationals - Ethan Holliday 2.) Angels - Aiva Arquette 3.) Mariners - Seth Hernandez 4.) Rockies - Liam Doyle 5.) Cardinals - Jamie Arnold 6.) Pirates - Eli Willits 7.) Marlins - Kyson Witherspoon 8.) Blue Jays - Kade Anderson 9.) Reds - Jace LaViolette 10. White Sox — Billy Carlson, SS, Corona (Calif.) HS Range: 6-10 The bulk of this wave of high school shortstops from 10-14 have a chance to go inside the first 10 picks, but more helium has gone towards the college pitchers in recent days. The college arms will have the advantage of pitching in high-profile matchups in postseason play, while the high school season is wrapping up around the country. Carlson doesn’t seem to be in the same Ethan Holliday/Eli Willits tier, but he’s not far off and boasts the best glove in the class. Edited May 12 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 12 hours ago, Lyle Moooton said: I agree it’s common, and I’m fine with the Hagen pick, but I wish they’d stay out of it. I trust Shirley’s evaluations more than Getz’ I think the GM absolutely should make the pick, just like in the NFL, NBA, etc.. He obviously should have the scouting director and staff at his side, but the GM is the one who builds the roster. Getz has moved on from a lot of people in the org., but he has kept Shirley. Not sure if that's significant or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 5/12/2025 at 3:12 AM, Lyle Moooton said: I agree it’s common, and I’m fine with the Hagen pick, but I wish they’d stay out of it. I trust Shirley’s evaluations more than Getz’ True but Getz will be blamed if the pick doesn’t work so I understand why he’d make the call. 18 hours ago, GreenSox said: I think the GM absolutely should make the pick, just like in the NFL, NBA, etc.. He obviously should have the scouting director and staff at his side, but the GM is the one who builds the roster. Getz has moved on from a lot of people in the org., but he has kept Shirley. Not sure if that's significant or not. Shirley is good at his job. He also drafted Chris Getz haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1. Washington Eli Willits SS Fort Cobb HS 2. LA Angels Jamie Arnold LHP Florida St 3. Seattle Ethan Holliday SS Stillwater HS 4. Colorado Seth Hernandez RHP Corona HS 5 St Louis Aiva Arquette 3B Oregon St 6. Pittsburgh Billy Carlson SS Corona HS 7. Miami Liam Doyle LHP Tennessee 8. Toronto Kayson Witherspoon RHP Oklahoma 9. Cincinnati Daniel Pierce SS Mill Creek HS 10. Chicago WS Kade Anderson LHP LSU 11. A's Marek Houston SS Wake Forest 12. Texas Jojo Parker SS Purvis HS 13. San Francisco Jace LaViolette OF Texas A&M 14. Tampa Bay Kayson Cuninngham SS Johnson HS 15. Boston Wehiwa Aloy SS Arkansas 16. Minnesota Gavin Kilen 2B Tennessee 17. Chicago Cubs Riley Quick RHP Alabama 18. Arizona Gavin Fien 3B Great Oaks HS 19. Baltimore Brendan Summerhill OF Arizona 20. Milwaukee Devin Taylor OF Indiana 21. Houston Sean Gamble OF IMG Academy 22. Altlanta Luke Stevenson C North Carolina 23. Kansas City Kruz Schoolcraft LHP Sunset HS 24. Detroit Ike Irish C Auburn 25. San Diego Cam Appenzeller LHP Glenwood HS 26. Philadelphia Xavier Neyens 3B Mt Vernon HS 27, Cleveland Jack Bauer LHP Lincoln Way HS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: 1. Washington Eli Willits SS Fort Cobb HS 2. LA Angels Jamie Arnold LHP Florida St 3. Seattle Ethan Holliday SS Stillwater HS 4. Colorado Seth Hernandez RHP Corona HS 5 St Louis Aiva Arquette 3B Oregon St 6. Pittsburgh Billy Carlson SS Corona HS 7. Miami Liam Doyle LHP Tennessee 8. Toronto Kayson Witherspoon RHP Oklahoma 9. Cincinnati Daniel Pierce SS Mill Creek HS 10. Chicago WS Kade Anderson LHP LSU 11. A's Marek Houston SS Wake Forest 12. Texas Jojo Parker SS Purvis HS 13. San Francisco Jace LaViolette OF Texas A&M 14. Tampa Bay Kayson Cuninngham SS Johnson HS 15. Boston Wehiwa Aloy SS Arkansas 16. Minnesota Gavin Kilen 2B Tennessee 17. Chicago Cubs Riley Quick RHP Alabama 18. Arizona Gavin Fien 3B Great Oaks HS 19. Baltimore Brendan Summerhill OF Arizona 20. Milwaukee Devin Taylor OF Indiana 21. Houston Sean Gamble OF IMG Academy 22. Altlanta Luke Stevenson C North Carolina 23. Kansas City Kruz Schoolcraft LHP Sunset HS 24. Detroit Ike Irish C Auburn 25. San Diego Cam Appenzeller LHP Glenwood HS 26. Philadelphia Xavier Neyens 3B Mt Vernon HS 27, Cleveland Jack Bauer LHP Lincoln Way HS And with the second round pick? Edited May 13 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 20 minutes ago, DirtySox said: And with the second round pick? Oof. It would definitely be a hitter. Maybe they could push a guy like Cannarella there. Or a guy like Mason Neville, Henry Ford or Quentin Young. There should be some pretty good options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 36 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Oof. It would definitely be a hitter. Maybe they could push a guy like Cannarella there. Or a guy like Mason Neville, Henry Ford or Quentin Young. There should be some pretty good options. Or they take a hitter first and try to push Bauer down? I hope to start hearing some gossip regarding him in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Is this mock from one of the publications, or from a group that you're involved with? I like Witherspoon for a pitcher, but he seems to be rocketing up past the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 hours ago, fathom said: Or they take a hitter first and try to push Bauer down? I hope to start hearing some gossip regarding him in a few weeks. Well one thing you can be sure of with Boras there will be no shortage of gossip. I think it's gonna be really hard for them to push him down. Two teams (Orioles and Rays) have 3 picks between the Sox 1st and 2nd rounders and a number of teams have 2 (Brewers, D'Backs, Dodgers, Red Sox, Tigers, Royals, Twins,). If they don't take him at 1-10 I don't think they're gonna get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, GreenSox said: Is this mock from one of the publications, or from a group that you're involved with? I like Witherspoon for a pitcher, but he seems to be rocketing up past the Sox It's a mock from my weird little brain so feel free to disregard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 30 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It's a mock from my weird little brain so feel free to disregard. Nah, it's interesting. It's also a handy one-page view of the early draft board. Lot of Shortstops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I know we need bats, but I’d be psyched if we drafted Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, GreenSox said: Nah, it's interesting. It's also a handy one-page view of the early draft board. Lot of Shortstops. HS SS or college arm is the way to go . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 13 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: HS SS or college arm is the way to go . Briefly saw a BA podcast where they said Quick is flying up the charts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 minutes ago, fathom said: Briefly saw a BA podcast where they said Quick is flying up the charts He's getting better as the season goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) Quote Riley Quick Surging It seems like that grouping of four college pitchers is at the top of many team boards—but who’s No. 5? For many it will be UC Santa Barbara righthander Tyler Bremner, who entered the spring neck and neck with Arnold but has been a bit more inconsistent? What about hulking, 6-foot-6, 245-pound righthander Riley Quick? He’s been a common name thrown around the industry in recent weeks and seems to be climbing boards. If he’s not solidly in the middle of the first round now, he could be soon. Quick has a fastball that sits in the 96-97 mph range and is regularly up into the triple digits. For the first time in his career, he’s put together a solid package of innings as a full-time starter. His last three outings have been good ones—seven strikeouts vs. Missouri, nine strikeouts vs. Vanderbilt and seven strikeouts vs. Georgia—and his pure arm talent should rival most pitchers in the class. Quick hasn’t shown the same strikeout upside that his peers in the class have—his strikeout rate sits at a solid 26.2% in his first 12 starts—but he has made nice strides in the control department. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/what-were-hearing-about-2025-mlb-draft-prospects-two-months-out/ Edited May 14 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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