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Buster Olney and Jesse Rogers’s turn ripping the Sox

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4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

And by the obvious improvement in the players that stuck around, he was obviously a big problem.

He was one of many problems. Nobody said he was the only problem. Some are just pushing back on the narrative that TA was a clubhouse leader and well respected teammate. There seems to be very little evidence to support that notion other than peoples feelings. 

2 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said:

He was one of many problems. Nobody said he was the only problem. Some are just pushing back on the narrative that TA was a clubhouse leader and well respected teammate. There seems to be very little evidence to support that notion other than peoples feelings. 

Which is being countered with... people's feelings.  Awesome.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Which is being countered with... people's feelings.  Awesome.

Some evidence was provided that shows TA may not have been a well like dude in the clubhouse and around professional baseball. The strange all star announcement video, giving the finger to a fan after TA made 3 errors in the first two innings, Jose Ramirez giving him the 80s Mike Tyson treatment, and the simple fact that TA is sitting on the unemployment line. 

2 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said:

Some evidence was provided that shows TA may not have been a well like dude in the clubhouse and around professional baseball. The strange all star announcement video, giving the finger to a fan after TA made 3 errors in the first two innings, Jose Ramirez giving him the 80s Mike Tyson treatment, and the simple fact that TA is sitting on the unemployment line. 

That isn't really evidence, except maybe the all-star locker room thing (of which we have no idea of what happened before or after, only a brief clip).  Those are all reading your feelings into situations.  Literally no one has actually come out and mentioned Tim Anderson as a problem, or even hinted at him.  They have talked about a segregated clubhouse, and they have talked about a lack of direction from leadership. 

5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

That isn't really evidence, except maybe the all-star locker room thing (of which we have no idea of what happened before or after, only a brief clip).  Those are all reading your feelings into situations.  Literally no one has actually come out and mentioned Tim Anderson as a problem, or even hinted at him.  They have talked about a segregated clubhouse, and they have talked about a lack of direction from leadership. 

Sure. None of us were actually in the clubhouse, so we will never truly know, I suppose. 

What we do know is that the dude is totally out of professional baseball at 31 years old though. Doesn't seem like any team wants anything to do with him anymore. 

5 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said:

Sure. None of us were actually in the clubhouse, so we will never truly know, I suppose. 

What we do know is that the dude is totally out of professional baseball at 31 years old though. Doesn't seem like any team wants anything to do with him anymore. 

Well there you go.  And despite articles in the last week that expressly named guys like Grandal and Hendriks, TA's name wasn't in them.

And no one wants him because he has been awful for two years now.

42 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Well there you go.  And despite articles in the last week that expressly named guys like Grandal and Hendriks, TA's name wasn't in them.

And no one wants him because he has been awful for two years now.

Yep.  Even if TA was truly an egotistical jagoff, if he was still hitting, some team would acquire him.  Jack Parkman style…

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1 hour ago, LittleHurtCG said:

He was one of many problems. Nobody said he was the only problem. Some are just pushing back on the narrative that TA was a clubhouse leader and well respected teammate. There seems to be very little evidence to support that notion other than peoples feelings. 

This is the same clubhouse who had to be forced to support Liam in his cancer recovery, but they're the good guys and TA is the bad guy. Makes sense.

2 hours ago, TaylorStSox said:

This is the same clubhouse who had to be forced to support Liam in his cancer recovery, but they're the good guys and TA is the bad guy. Makes sense.

Honestly doesn't appear like there were many "good" guys in the clubhouse at all. Bunch of shitty people and shitty baseball players. Great combination Rick Hahn and KW assembled there. 

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