BamaDoc Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Not only is Future Sox releasing their inseason rankings but MLB.com has released a new top 100 and new top 30's for all teams with the new draftees included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 10 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: Not only is Future Sox releasing their inseason rankings but MLB.com has released a new top 100 and new top 30's for all teams with the new draftees included. Hagen falling completely out of BA's updated top 100 is major yikes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 Six 55FV prospects, one 50 FV, and five 45FV then 40s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 4 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: Hagen falling completely out of BA's updated top 100 is major yikes It's hard to make a convincing counter argument for why he shouldn't. Decline in velocity/overall stuff, major command issues and there's at least the suspiciouon of an underlying health issue. Since they're sending him to the AFL he's probably not hurt, but that just makes the regression even more concerning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 6 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: Hagen falling completely out of BA's updated top 100 is major yikes Didn’t Colson fall out of theirs as well? And look at him now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Surprised to see J Gonzalez dropping in Pipeline's ratings. Our man continues to rake at Charlotte. Seems unreasonable to put Carlson over Bonemer at this stage. I think Pipeline is too 'bullish' lately on teenagers who have shown very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 6 hours ago, nrockway said: Surprised to see J Gonzalez dropping in Pipeline's ratings. Our man continues to rake at Charlotte. Seems unreasonable to put Carlson over Bonemer at this stage. I think Pipeline is too 'bullish' lately on teenagers who have shown very little. I couldn’t justify Bonemer over Carlson in our FutureSox discussions. Bonemer just isn’t the same level of prospect imo. Bonemer has done it at Low A but he’s more similar to Fauske. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 8 hours ago, Boopa1219 said: Didn’t Colson fall out of theirs as well? And look at him now They both fell out for valid reasons, just have to hope that Hagen has a Colson-esque resurgence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Top Ten draft picks are always going to get the benefit of the doubt over second rounders. Has always been that way. Easier for a first rounder to stay on a list than for anyone from lower rounds to break through. Kristian Campbell was a huge exception getting into the Top 15 in one year as a fourth rounder...but his struggles at the mlb level just reinforce the volatility of the rankings when such a big jump across three levels occurs. We had Vaughn/Madrigal, now it looks like Jacob Gonzalez/H.Smith will be the next pairing of questionable 1st round picks unless something changes dramatically like it did for Colson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I couldn’t justify Bonemer over Carlson in our FutureSox discussions. Bonemer just isn’t the same level of prospect imo. Bonemer has done it at Low A but he’s more similar to Fauske. It’s an interesting dilemma. I am probably high man on Bonemer — I would have him over Braden. I just like the way he carries himself and the potential for impact. I’m probably too high, but he impressed me from the jump. But I can see why you’d have Carlson higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 (edited) 8 hours ago, Timmy U said: It’s an interesting dilemma. I am probably high man on Bonemer — I would have him over Braden. I just like the way he carries himself and the potential for impact. I’m probably too high, but he impressed me from the jump. But I can see why you’d have Carlson higher. Braden has decent but not elite CF speed and high-level ability across four tools. Bonemer is unlikely to stick up the middle...and it remains to be seen if he's a 15-18 homer guy or possibly high 20s as he fills out. For younger kids, most high schoolers, High A will be the first big challenge. Edited August 13 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 @Y2Jimmy0, why no love for a guy like Grant Umberger? He seems to have been dominant for a stretch at Kanny and has similar or better numbers than Luis Reyes. Is it that somebody like Reyes exhibits better mechanics and ceiling, is it age or pedigree? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 10 hours ago, WestEddy said: @Y2Jimmy0, why no love for a guy like Grant Umberger? He seems to have been dominant for a stretch at Kanny and has similar or better numbers than Luis Reyes. Is it that somebody like Reyes exhibits better mechanics and ceiling, is it age or pedigree? Thanks. Older undrafted college guy. Just need to see it longer and at higher levels. Guys like him carve in Low A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Lmao, this is still up on Pipeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Quin said: Lmao, this is still up on Pipeline. Beats Semien, TA and Tatis combined. Expected it to be Billy Carlson. Edited August 14 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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