7 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Except that isn't what happened here.  The women in question wasn't in possession of the foul ball and then was shamed for not "handing a kid a baseball".  Quite the opposite, the kid was in the possession of the ball and a grown women demanded that the ball be handed over to her.  If it was the former scenario, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Can people not see the difference?

All I keep reading is “what if something DIFFERENT happened.  Then I bet you would have a different opinion”

that kids birthday was like 3 days from then.  That was his Dad giving him the ball, this isn’t entitlement on anyone’s behalf except that lady 

3 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I see the difference and said pretty clearly that she should have just dropped the matter. I also said it was too bad she ruined a hugging moment between a father and son to unleash on the guy. 

I don't like people running from 20 seats away to grab a ball at someone's feet they're bending over to get, themselves. I understand the dynamics of "going for a ball" at a game. Maybe some people, like an older woman, gets startled and angered by strangers reaching between their legs to grab a baseball. 

And while I have given away baseballs, souvenirs thrown into the stands and a baseball bat to other people, mostly kids, I don't like the cultural brow-beating to "give a kid a ball". It's a stupid and performative guilt trip. Shriffen was going on about this during the Sunday game, and I really wonder why he doesn't spend a couple of innings handing out baseballs to children if it's so important to a child's experience to go home with a free baseball. I don't know why nobody sees this dichotomy. 

No it is way better to run up on, then put your hands on a stranger with his kid and demand something from him.

6 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

There seems to be something ingrained in modern American culture to just step over everyone else to get what you want right or wrong.  It's nothing new, but it's been normalized and in some cases lauded in the last few years.   

The shift in this country towards anti everything decent has been unreal to watch.  

The woman was 100% wrong.  Her doxing is based on her appearance and actions and is not going away any time soon.

In the end, the family won the day with the follow events from the Phillies. 

1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

All I keep reading is “what if something DIFFERENT happened.  Then I bet you would have a different opinion”

that kids birthday was like 3 days from then.  That was his Dad giving him the ball, this isn’t entitlement on anyone’s behalf except that lady 

What if something happened....like if she was a man? Lol.

19 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

What if something happened....like if she was a man? Lol.

If she, was a he, and ran up on, and then went and put hands on another dude while holding his kid, he probably gets punched.

59 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

What if something happened....like if she was a man? Lol.

I mean yea let’s just keep changing the variables, right?  Let’s not address what actually happened, let’s all just agree that the kid doesn’t deserve it and let’s leave the lady alone.  However you wanna dream it up

32 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I mean yea let’s just keep changing the variables, right?  Let’s not address what actually happened, let’s all just agree that the kid doesn’t deserve it and let’s leave the lady alone.  However you wanna dream it up

You're screaming about me widening the parameters of a conversation, which happens in pretty much every conversation, but you want to surmise how the internet would react to her, IF SHE WAS A MAN. You just broke your own rule.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

If she, was a he, and ran up on, and then went and put hands on another dude while holding his kid, he probably gets punched.

And if 4 drooling goons ran up on my wife and started reaching around her legs, they'd be picking up teeth, not a baseball.

2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And if 4 drooling goons ran up on my wife and started reaching around her legs, they'd be picking up teeth, not a baseball.

None of which actually happened.  

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

None of which actually happened.  

It did. Eagle jersey guy was still looking around her legs after dad of the year ran away with the ball.

14 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

It did. Eagle jersey guy was still looking around her legs after dad of the year ran away with the ball.

It just went from 4 goons, to "the guy in the eagles jersey".  The two guys two rows in front never reached down.  The guy who got the ball picked it up on the side of the seat.  Even the guy in the Eagles jersey seems to be in the row in front of her, and reaching straight down.  If you actually look at it, she is reaching down a row.

If this is even accurate, because based on the video that isn't at all clear,  her problem was with the guy in the Eagles jersey, because the guy who got the ball reached down by side of the seat, and not "in between her legs".  She sure didn't chase him down, so that sure doesn't seem to be the problem here.

 

55 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I mean yea let’s just keep changing the variables, right?  Let’s not address what actually happened, let’s all just agree that the kid doesn’t deserve it and let’s leave the lady alone.  However you wanna dream it up

And nobody changed any variables. I don't like the practice of people running from all over the section to grab a baseball away from a lady (anyone, really) who was bent over, trying to pick it up from in front of her. That all happened.

I think the backlash is misogynist. No variables changed there, either. I compared her backlash to another viral incident from last week, which seems to confuse and anger you. One lasted about an hour, the other is going on for another day, now. Still nothing being "changed".

3rd, I'm uncomfortable with social pressure to "give a kid the ball". Still, nobody pretending something different happened. 

You're the only one changing variables, pretending she was a man. I'll accept your apology in 20's.

So basically if a ball is hit towards me and rolls down a few rows, that's my ball? The answer is: nope.

Edited September 8, 2025Sep 8 by Bob Sacamano

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

You're screaming about me widening the parameters of a conversation, which happens in pretty much every conversation, but you want to surmise how the internet would react to her, IF SHE WAS A MAN. You just broke your own rule.

I was mocking your approach.  Thanks for noticing 😂

36 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And nobody changed any variables. I don't like the practice of people running from all over the section to grab a baseball away from a lady (anyone, really) who was bent over, trying to pick it up from in front of her. That all happened.

I think the backlash is misogynist. No variables changed there, either. I compared her backlash to another viral incident from last week, which seems to confuse and anger you. One lasted about an hour, the other is going on for another day, now. Still nothing being "changed".

3rd, I'm uncomfortable with social pressure to "give a kid the ball". Still, nobody pretending something different happened. 

You're the only one changing variables, pretending she was a man. I'll accept your apology in 20's.

I’m neither confused nor angry.  Your premise sucks, you are projecting misogyny when there is none.  The male polish CEO did the same thing and the same thing happened to him, somehow you keep ignoring this.  Maybe this is because you are confused and angry?  I dunno, you started all this with the idea that maybe kids don’t really deserve a baseball lmao, when did we all start giving a baseball to a kid?  maybe I want to keep it?

The only apology you will get here, is I am extremely sorry that you don’t get it.  Tremendously sorry.  
 

 

19 hours ago, WestEddy said:

And if 4 drooling goons ran up on my wife and started reaching around her legs, they'd be picking up teeth, not a baseball.

Of all the stretches you’ve made, the biggest has to be claiming you’d knock out the teeth of four separate men at once.

The woman is being offered 5k to sell the ball, and being asked to sign “I’m sorry” on the ball lol

https://www.ffsn.com/phillies-karen-is-being-offered-5000-for-the-ball-she-stole/

If the equivalent of Sydney Sweeney, Livvy Dunne or Alabama Rush like girls switched places with the skunk haired witch …everyone would be teasing the father for being seduced into giving up the ball.

Without the Karen approach and appearance, wouldn’t be hearing nearly so much outcry.

It’s pretty cut and dried.

4 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

The woman is being offered 5k to sell the ball, and being asked to sign “I’m sorry” on the ball lol

https://www.ffsn.com/phillies-karen-is-being-offered-5000-for-the-ball-she-stole/

Did the collectibles shop get $5000 in free publicity yet?

Surprise her identity out successfully outed yet…

 

Edited September 11, 2025Sep 11 by caulfield12

On 9/10/2025 at 2:26 PM, Kyyle23 said:

The woman is being offered 5k to sell the ball, and being asked to sign “I’m sorry” on the ball lol

https://www.ffsn.com/phillies-karen-is-being-offered-5000-for-the-ball-she-stole/

oy vey. but why???

39 minutes ago, nrockway said:

oy vey. but why???

Like Caulfield said, getting attention for their business

20 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Like Caulfield said, getting attention for their business

More of a rhetorical "but why??" when you could donate, I dunno, $5000 worth of merch to some sick kids or something actually helpful. Hard to imagine this is good publicity. Blowout Cards is already pretty famous, this probably just annoys the people who shop there. Getting paid to be a buffoon seems like about what 90% of the modern economy is based on though.

Edited September 12, 2025Sep 12 by nrockway

This was great just for the memes of Phillie Karen and Gollum.

28 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

This was great just for the memes of Phillie Karen and Gollum.

Phillies lady era is over, now we're on "f*** Ken Rosenthal". Never trusted that bowtie.