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5 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

lol wat?  He has been a highlight machine all season 

All the attention on Raleigh and Judge and Ohtani.

Does Kyle get put into that same conversation very frequently?

Maybe too defensive since he shares your name.

KYyle though.  Not quite the same.

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2 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

Sometimes stats deceive the eyes.

Salvy Perez by contrast has 36 bWAR vs 19 fWAR.

Famously good defender Derek Jeter has more fWAR than bWAR. I think baseball-reference is the better website but fangraphs's stats are easier (free) to search.

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3 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Salvy Perez by contrast has 36 bWAR vs 19 fWAR.

Famously good defender Derek Jeter has more fWAR than bWAR. I think baseball-reference is the better website but fangraphs's stats are easier (free) to search.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/beninan01.shtml

2019-2020 very pedestrian numbers no matter which system you go by

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5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/beninan01.shtml

2019-2020 very pedestrian numbers no matter which system you go by

so why ignore the previous two seasons?

I'm not trying to make the point that Benintendi is good. The point was you don't pay guys for past performance. Or what qualifies as 'wasted money'. The Mets aren't paying Manaea $75mil for last season's performance, they're paying him for this year and the next two.

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1 minute ago, nrockway said:

so why ignore the previous two seasons?

I'm not trying to make the point that Benintendi is good. The point was you don't pay guys for past performance.

Because you could see his defense and speed falling off.

His numbers were also helped being in that NYY lineup in 2022.

Boston gave up on him.

Players nearing late 20s usually don't improve suddenly at 30-33 with steroids.

The guys that do excel in 30s usually power hitters like your Judges and Schwarbers.

 

A 3 year deal was what everyone else in the industry was offering.  Maybe one other team was at four but Hahn blew away all the offers...pretty early in FA if I remember correctly.

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10 minutes ago, nrockway said:

so why ignore the previous two seasons?

I'm not trying to make the point that Benintendi is good. The point was you don't pay guys for past performance.

Because you could see his defense and speed falling off.

His numbers were also helped being in that NYY lineup in 2022.

Boston gave up on him.

Players nearing late 20s usually don't improve suddenly at 30-33 with steroids.

The guys that do excel in 30s usually power hitters like your Judges and Schwarbers.

 

A 3 year deal was what everyone else in the industry was offering.  Maybe one other team was at four but Hahn blew away all the offers...pretty early in FA if I remember correctly.

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2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Because you could see his defense and speed falling off.

His numbers were also helped being in that NYY lineup in 2022.

Boston gave up on him.

Players nearing late 20s usually don't improve suddenly at 30-33 with steroids.

The guys that do excel in 30s usually power hitters like your Judges and Schwarbers.

 

A 3 year deal was what everyone else in the industry was offering.  Maybe one other team was at four but Hahn blew away all the offers...pretty early in FA if I remember correctly.

you seem to have entirely missed the point lol

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