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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Speaking of Manfred and the probable lockout. Here's an interesting story on some "cheap" teams trying to spend and why:

https://defector.com/why-mlbs-cheapest-teams-are-at-least-trying-to-seem-like-theyre-trying

The A's did this last off season...but they actually have/had some unusual clause inserted that they have to reach $100 million floor in payroll at a certain point as a result of negotiations with MLB over their classification for CBT subsidies.  

So it was more about preserving all the benefits of being a small market team when technically they didn't meet any of the requirements except for the way in which they operated in a practical sense.

 

Meanwhile Sox staring at $62 million and much less without Robert.

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1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

Pitch clock is the best thing to come out of his tenure. Makes games so much better. 

Bigger bases and fewer/limited throwovers has led to more action on the base paths as well.

WBC in general keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Huge increase in NPB players has led to record tv viewership in Japan (that almost eclipses the US at 40% of population) with majority "breakfast time" games.

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On 12/5/2025 at 2:40 PM, PaleAleSox said:

Pitch clock is the best thing to come out of his tenure. Makes games so much better. 

I totally agree.  This change may be the reason why MLB has seen an increase in viewership over the last few years.   The 7:00 games dragging on until 10:30 or close to 11:00 night after night was getting ridiculous.

On the other hand, I think potentially the worst thing that may come out of his tenure is the complete destruction of the American League and National League.   He sure seems to be setting MLB up to make this a reality.  IMO, it just won't be the same when the Sox and Cubs are both in the "Great Lakes Division" of the "Eastern Conference" or whatever the hell they end up with.  

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On 12/5/2025 at 3:19 PM, nrockway said:

Hate the rule changes but I think it’s fair to say baseball has experienced a resurgence under him. Whether or not he has anything to do with it, I’m not sure, but I have the feeling the MLB will inevitably usurp the NBA in popularity. 

I don't follow the NBA so anything I say about basketball doesn't really have any substance behind it, but my wife and I went to a G-League game the other day (I know it's not the NBA but still...closest thing to it). It was boring as hell. Part of the issue is the penalties. They can't touch each other without getting called. You can only watch free throws for so long before you start wondering when the game is going to end...

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4 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Obviously the players don't want a cap and never will. But at some point you have to be willing to negotiate a little bit. I think the floor is an interesting piece to the puzzle, and then that revenue-split system that I don't really understand. I mean really how far do you go until you call it greed? (I know we can talk all day about greedy owners...) 

On another note I like that he is talking about blackouts being a major issue that needs to be addressed. I am hopeful they get rid of that stupid reality once and for all soon. It does nothing but diminish the popularity of the sport. Periodt.

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15 minutes ago, Ducksnort said:

Obviously the players don't want a cap and never will. But at some point you have to be willing to negotiate a little bit. I think the floor is an interesting piece to the puzzle, and then that revenue-split system that I don't really understand. I mean really how far do you go until you call it greed? (I know we can talk all day about greedy owners...) 

On another note I like that he is talking about blackouts being a major issue that needs to be addressed. I am hopeful they get rid of that stupid reality once and for all soon. It does nothing but diminish the popularity of the sport. Periodt.

If you can get a 50/50 split, and agree to a solid revenue definition, they will come out ahead.  I don't think either of those will happen though.  Most other sports are different through because their primary funding is a national deal, which almost all teams have significant, but very different, local deals.

 

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