4 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Why are you being like this? I'm just replying to what you wrote and you happened to be wrong in your assessment. You said he was playing poorly but he is literally playing like a 3 WAR player because that's what the statistics are. His bat is 23% above league average and he is playing the same kind of defense he always does. Chase is playing fine and if he played exactly the same way for the rest of the season, he would produce 3 WAR. You're the one talking about 7 games and how he already needs to be benched. I simply ask "why would you replace the guy on pace for 3 WAR and not the guy on pace for -8 WAR? Because a middle infielder can't play left field?".

Fact of the matter is that several of these middle infield prospects need to learn the outfield. There's no room for them. There are practically zero notable outfielders in the system outside of Braden, and if there are some to be bullish on (Wolkow, Zavala, Ely Brown, Alcala), they aren't making the MLB roster anytime soon. Converting middle infielders to outfielders is just the way baseball works. If you're a position player prospect of some note, chances are you were a shortstop in college and high school or you're left-handed and played center field. I'd start playing Bonemer there too. Bryan Ramos should've learned left and he might still be on the team. If Carlson and Roch join the team and play to their potential, where are the rest of these dudes going to play?

Not to say Chase is the second baseman of the future necessarily, but there are by far bigger holes on this team.

Why am I being like what? I don’t agree that we should value him as a 3.3 WAR player based on the first six games, I certainly don’t see a guy hitting or fielding like it, and you are arguing with me about how I feel about him. You are free to want the worse player at second and to sacrifice the better players development, I’m not arguing with you over it. I don’t see much out of Chase, and he is gonna get way more rope to hang himself with because he was part of the crochet return.

It suck’s that 4 years into this fucking rebuild and we are talking about switching positions on the guys that are supposed to be the core because we don’t have enough quality outfielders

33 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

My point was “this guy Hasn’t really all been that great and his replaceable” and you responded saying he is a 3.3 WAR player, and now we are back to “well it’s better than Andrew Vaughn right”….? Whatever man. I believe Antonacci will be the better player at second and he should play there because of that reason. Chase isn’t lighting the world on fire and forcing them to keep him in the lineup and you could try actual outfielders in Left instead of making someone play out of position It’s funny you brought up Vaughn who was playing out of position the entire time with the Sox and it HURT HIS DEVELOPMENT

The "reason" you believe Antonacci should play 2B is based on your opinion that he would be a better player there (?) and your belief that Vaughn's outfield experience somehow hurt his development as a first basemen. However, consider that Vaughn and Antonacci have different profiles - Vaughn is a tank, the slowest player on the team while Antonacci, although not a burner, can run the bases and cover ground in the outfield. Second, a spot in the infield is not in the cards for Ant. Sox have a lot of infielders, infield prospects (like Billy Carlson) and future pick Roch Chowlowsky. Let's not ignore a logjam that would block Ant from possibly ever being called up. At the same time, Benintendi has defensive issues in the outfield. That is why the White Sox have asked Sam to put on an outfielder's glove in AAA and see if he can work out there. I want to see Ant called up, but let's see how Ant in the outfield plays out.

13 minutes ago, tray said:

The "reason" you believe Antonacci should play 2B is based on your opinion that he would be a better player there (?) and your belief that Vaughn's outfield experience somehow hurt his development as a first basemen. However, consider that Vaughn and Antonacci have different profiles - Vaughn is a tank, the slowest player on the team while Antonacci, although not a burner, can run the bases and cover ground in the outfield. Second, a spot in the infield is not in the cards for Ant. Sox have a lot of infielders, infield prospects (like Billy Carlson) and future pick Roch Chowlowsky. Let's not ignore a logjam that would block Ant from possibly ever being called up. At the same time, Benintendi has defensive issues in the outfield. That is why the White Sox have asked Sam to put on an outfielder's glove in AAA and see if he can work out there. I want to see Ant called up, but let's see how Ant in the outfield plays out.

There is a lot of reasons Tray, and yes I do not like playing him out of position this is true, but this is not the only reason. I simply believe Antonacci is gonna be the better player, based on the hype this offseason, I listened to a few baseball guys call into the score and talk about him, his WBC appearance was noteworthy, and I just like his overall progression

they could also try to trade some of these minor leaguers for another teams milb OFers. you don't see a lot of milb for milb swaps but they do happen

57 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

they could also try to trade some of these minor leaguers for another teams milb OFers. you don't see a lot of milb for milb swaps but they do happen

Getz tried. We got Fletcher and DeLoach.

8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Getz tried. We got Fletcher and DeLoach.

Getz also traded cash for Tristan Peters, and Steven Wilson & Yoendrys Gomez for Pereira and Tanner Murray.

11 hours ago, joejoesox said:

they could also try to trade some of these minor leaguers for another teams milb OFers. you don't see a lot of milb for milb swaps but they do happen

Getz was too busy trading good minor leaguers for older brokeass relievers.