2 hours ago2 hr 1 hour ago, nrockway said:Hays as a Padre: 26 plate appearances, .250/.308/.375 (.683 ops). 1 extra base hit, this home run from two weeks ago.Grichuk over roughly the same time period: 40 plate appearances, .375/.375/.725 (1.100 ops). 10 extra base hits, 2 home runs.Don't think we're missing out on Hays. Imagine if we kept and played Hays and Gonzalez, this team would not be in first place.Hays would replace Doyle.
2 hours ago2 hr 2 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:Hays would replace Doyle.And you would still have another rotation option, or swingman. Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by WhiteSox2023
2 hours ago2 hr 5 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:Hays would replace Doyle.That's not what was discussed in this thread. And Hays can't play center field, Doyle was brought in specifically to platoon center field. His metrics suggest he shouldn't play anywhere in the outfield. Doyle is also much younger and has several years of control. It was either Hays or Grichuk. Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by nrockway
2 hours ago2 hr 18 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:And you would still have another rotation option, or swingman.Eventually you're gonna realize that Adams wasn't a viable starting option for the Sox. He would have been up here a while ago if he was.
1 hour ago1 hr 30 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:And you would still have another rotation option, or swingman.None of the stuff you complain about would have happened. Hays has nothing to do with Doyle, in that Hays is not an elite defensive CF. Doyle is. Hays is also regularly injured. I hope Mason Adams pitches his way into the HOF. The Rockies gave away Doyle for nothing.
1 hour ago1 hr 13 minutes ago, WestEddy said:None of the stuff you complain about would have happened. Hays has nothing to do with Doyle, in that Hays is not an elite defensive CF. Doyle is. Hays is also regularly injured.I hope Mason Adams pitches his way into the HOF. The Rockies gave away Doyle for nothing.I never said Hays played CF. The Sox already had a CF that could hit better than Doyle even when he was slumping. Acuna also backed up CF. Doyle has a good glove but swings a wet rolled up newspaper these days.
1 hour ago1 hr 35 minutes ago, almagest said:Eventually you're gonna realize that Adams wasn't a viable starting option for the Sox. He would have been up here a while ago if he was.So Getz always makes the right decisions on player assessments and trades? Because his trade deadline moves don’t appear to have worked out so hot thus far.Also seems to me that Adams did okay in his first major league start last night…https://www.mlb.com/rockies/news/mason-adams-callup-for-mlb-debut?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023
1 hour ago1 hr 9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:So Getz always makes the right decisions on player assessments and trades? Because his trade deadline moves don’t appear to have worked out so hot thus far.Also seems to me that Adams did okay in his first major league start last night…https://www.mlb.com/rockies/news/mason-adams-callup-for-mlb-debut?t=mlb-pipeline-coverageYea that 1.5 WHIP over 4 innings is amazing. I'm sure he'll keep putting that many guys on base a game and not suffer from it.And no, Getz doesn't always make the right decisions, but he doesn't always make the wrong ones either. You really want to believe that Getz is so incompetent he'd trade a quality starting pitching prospect for garbage. It's way more likely Adams either is nothing special, or it took more than you assume to get Doyle because Colorado and other teams besides the Sox valued him. Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by almagest
1 hour ago1 hr 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:I never said Hays played CF. The Sox already had a CF that could hit better than Doyle even when he was slumping. Acuna also backed up CF. Doyle has a good glove but swings a wet rolled up newspaper these days.Doyle is probably the best defensive CF on the team right now. It doesn't matter if they had someone who could stand out in CF for a game. It looks like they wanted to get an elite defensive backup. They didn't have that. Pereira nor Hays were that. And if you're referring to Pereira, he's played 37 of about 120 games. He wasn't an option.
1 hour ago1 hr 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:So Getz always makes the right decisions on player assessments and trades? Because his trade deadline moves don’t appear to have worked out so hot thus far.Also seems to me that Adams did okay in his first major league start last night…https://www.mlb.com/rockies/news/mason-adams-callup-for-mlb-debut?t=mlb-pipeline-coverageBoy, you sure love your teeny tiny sample sizes. Weird how 4.0 IP makes Mason Adams a viable playoff starter, but nobody gets to reference an entire season of stats from 2 years ago to argue that a pitcher has had major league success. Castillo and Urquidy also did well in one of their White Sox starts. A move works out or not over the long haul, not in one game.
58 minutes ago58 min 10 minutes ago, WestEddy said:Boy, you sure love your teeny tiny sample sizes. Weird how 4.0 IP makes Mason Adams a viable playoff starter, but nobody gets to reference an entire season of stats from 2 years ago to argue that a pitcher has had major league success.Castillo and Urquidy also did well in one of their White Sox starts.A move works out or not over the long haul, not in one game.I never said he was a viable playoff starter. He’s a project just like what you labeled Castillo as. But Adams was already in the organization and didn’t need to be traded for. Meanwhile, Doyle is probably a non-tender in the offseason.
56 minutes ago56 min 18 minutes ago, almagest said:Yea that 1.5 WHIP over 4 innings is amazing. I'm sure he'll keep putting that many guys on base a game and not suffer from it.And no, Getz doesn't always make the right decisions, but he doesn't always make the wrong ones either. You really want to believe that Getz is so incompetent he'd trade a quality starting pitching prospect for garbage. It's way more likely Adams either is nothing special, or it took more than you assume to get Doyle because Colorado and other teams besides the Sox valued him.Instead, we have a high-priced over the hill ace with a 1.53 WHIP through 4 starts.
48 minutes ago48 min 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:Instead, we have a high-priced over the hill ace with a 1.53 WHIP through 4 starts.Yeah cool let's add another one of those guys to the rotation with Adams. Except I'll bet on the guy who was a solid starter as recently as last year to find something over the guy who's probably a decent middle reliever at best, and I didn't even like the Castillo deal.
36 minutes ago36 min On 8/5/2026 at 4:15 PM, The Mighty Mite said:Pereira had a very good Sunday with a double a homer and 4 rbis and gets DFA the next day. Yeah he was hurt but Teel’s been hurt the just about the whole year. Hays has a pretty good track record and we throw 6 million out the window and DFA him. None of this makes sense.The 6 million was thrown out the window when he didn’t play most of the season, not a September DFA
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