4 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

It’s already around $100 million without new deals for Fedde or Newcomb…

Ok, you think the Sox are going to rock a $100M payroll next year after making the playoffs and seeing a huge increase in attendance and fan interest? Just for perspective, the median payroll in baseball this year is $175M. And MLB is pushing for a minimum payroll of like $170M. But yes, the White Sox will break all historical precedents and rock a bottom payroll after making a playoff run.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Ok, you think the Sox are going to rock a $100M payroll next year after making the playoffs and seeing a huge increase in attendance and fan interest? Just for perspective, the median payroll in baseball this year is $175M. And MLB is pushing for a minimum payroll of like $170M. But yes, the White Sox will break all historical precedents and rock a bottom payroll after making a playoff run.

You’re underestimating the impact of the CBA uncertainty

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

You’re underestimating the impact of the CBA uncertainty

You’re over-estimating. If there is any sort of offseason before a lockout, most free agents won’t be signed until after it settles.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

You’re over-estimating. If there is any sort of offseason before a lockout, most free agents won’t be signed until after it settles.

The heavy rumor is free agents will try to sign before the lockout

also, while attendance obviously increased, the bigger concern as to why the payroll won’t go up as much as we hope is the TV distribution issues that still exist. I would love to be wrong and see a 160 million dollar payroll with a starting pitcher, closer and Seiya added and extensions to a few guys.

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

You’re underestimating the impact of the CBA uncertainty

There’s no way the Sox haven’t acquired an expensive pitcher bottom line when they resume playing. Unless someone unfathomably wants to trade them a cheap ace. No way. Somebody is being added, and it won’t be cheap. If the Sox neglected this team, come at them. But I doubt they will.

45 minutes ago, fathom said:

The heavy rumor is free agents will try to sign before the lockout

That was like last time. It was fun when there were a ton of moves to follow leading up to the lockout deadline.

It's sad that I wouldn't even pencil in our 3 best pitching prospects coming into this year into the rotation.

Locks: Burke, Martin, Castillo (contract), Kay (adding enough/guys getting promoted can add him to the bullpen in a long-relief/extra starter role)

I would sign 2 SP bumping everyone down the depth chart. Teams need as many guys they can count on as possible.

Martin was Top 5 in mlb or least the AL for 2-3 months, almost made the All Star team...pretty darned terrible for three full months and then good again down the stretch.

Could go the way of Shane Smith or re-establish himself as a rotation mainstay.

Or anywhere in between and it wouldn't be much of a surprise.

But don't see many clamoring for him to pitch again Saturday or this postseason.

Maybe his body is just not 100% at this point with the late season injuries...

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Ok, you think the Sox are going to rock a $100M payroll next year after making the playoffs and seeing a huge increase in attendance and fan interest? Just for perspective, the median payroll in baseball this year is $175M. And MLB is pushing for a minimum payroll of like $170M. But yes, the White Sox will break all historical precedents and rock a bottom payroll after making a playoff run.

I don't recall stating anywhere a payroll number for next year...just noted where it was at right now, which is $102 million counting Castillo.

$145-150 million is pretty close to the mid point...Detroit Tigers.

$170 was the opening owners' gambit but a realistic number is closer to $125/130.

Honestly, there's not more than 8-12 FA pitchers they could realistically be in on.

All of the FA position players have major flaws.

While a Chisholm here or Seiya Suzuki or Alec Bohm or whoever would be nice...not counting on it.

Sato is also out of their realistic range.

Betting over under, would put 2027 payroll around $125-130 million when all is said and done unless there really is an immediate floor instituted...don't think there's enough of a talent out there to manage that (getting every MLB team to let's call it $145 million) before the end of 2028-2029.

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10 hours ago, wegner said:

That 4 inning save was stellar....it also might have gassed him. Taylor gave up some long outs in game 2 and well he looked awful today.

Yeah well obviously the playoffs are a different situation, but hopefully our manager will have the brains to manage the staff better. And hopefully there will be a better staff to manage as well.

But I do fully expect at least 1, if not both Hagen and Taylor, to be tried as a SP next year. We are likely still years away from this organization acquiring legit SP so have to make due with what’s here.

3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Yeah well obviously the playoffs are a different situation, but hopefully our manager will have the brains to manage the staff better. And hopefully there will be a better staff to manage as well.

But I do fully expect at least 1, if not both Hagen and Taylor, to be tried as a SP next year. We are likely still years away from this organization acquiring legit SP so have to make due with what’s here.

Ain't that the truth. I would have left Fedde in to face Ramirez. It's not like he put in a lefty to face him and other than the hit from Kwan the batter before, he was cruising. They also needed some length.

6 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Yeah well obviously the playoffs are a different situation, but hopefully our manager will have the brains to manage the staff better. And hopefully there will be a better staff to manage as well.

But I do fully expect at least 1, if not both Hagen and Taylor, to be tried as a SP next year. We are likely still years away from this organization acquiring legit SP so have to make due with what’s here.

I don't think taylor makes it into the starting rotation next year. I definitely think they go out and acquire at least one starting pitcher. The rebuild is over. Their competitive window is now open.