knightni Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Did Koch have Tommy John surgery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Then he's probably in need of it. Elbow problems and hard throwing don't seem to mix for very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Regardless how many he gets, it has to get much better than last year. My official name for him last year was "The Human Warning Track" because every time he pitched, that is where the ball wound up.....or even farther!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillieHarris2 Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Regardless how many he gets, it has to get much better than last year. My official name for him last year was "The Human Warning Track" because every time he pitched, that is where the ball wound up.....or even farther!! ya it always seemed liked everytime he pitched u knew he was gonna give up a homerun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Did Koch have Tommy John surgery? When he was in the minors coming up he did.... very early in his pro career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Yep. Didn't get over 91 today. Controlled though. But it is only ST... From the Cubune: The Sox had Koch throwing consistently between 90-93 m.p.h. Friday and he touched 94 a couple of times. After getting the first hitter to fly out to left, Koch struck out the last two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 From the Cubune: I thought it was very interestin was Billy Beane said to him when he was in Oakland. "Beane was like, 'Why did I trade for you? You're only throwing 92,'" Koch recalled. "I said, 'All right, watch me the next time out.' I threw 94, then 96, then 98, then 100." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 It's not just his velocity last year that killed him. His ball is "flat" with very little movement, and if he's not throwing it 94 +, it looks awfully enticing to hitters. He has to rely on blowing it past guys, rather than expecting his pitches dart or dip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Did he lose any weight when he joined the Sox? Perhaps he went on the Barry Bonds - Jason Giambi diet plan? His returning to 2002 form was key in my thinking we could actually do something this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 From the Cubune: Just repeated what I heard during the broadcast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Just repeated what I heard during the broadcast... Oh, I wasn't questioning you, Steff. Just adding more input from another source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 I thought it was very interestin was Billy Beane said to him when he was in Oakland. "Beane was like, 'Why did I trade for you? You're only throwing 92,'" Koch recalled. "I said, 'All right, watch me the next time out.' I threw 94, then 96, then 98, then 100." i saw that and was just wondering if koch's continually trying to and throwing harder and faster in 2002 was what gave him his 2003 troubles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Where did people hear his elbow was a problem? They never said anything about it last year, and I hadn't heard that during the offseason either. Does anyone have a source where it said his elbow was giving him trouble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillieHarris2 Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Billys elbow problems go to the bottom on that page where it says minor league highlights and look at 1997. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 I don't give a f*** if Koch throws 12 mph...aslong as he is effective. I think he will get forty-plus saves this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillieHarris2 Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 I don't give a f*** if Koch throws 12 mph...aslong as he is effective. I think he will get forty-plus saves this season. if he hits his spots he should be pretty effective. 40 saves would be very nice outta billy, and would silence all his critics here in chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 if he hits his spots he should be pretty effective. 40 saves would be very nice outta billy, and would silence all his critics here in chicago. If we were coming into this season from the 2002 season, we would be easily favorited with just the guys we have. Frank, Mags, and CLee are knowns...what says Kong won't be back?...Crede is going to be a machine...Borchard may step it up...Jose isn't as bad as everyone says he is...etc. I really like this team, and think we will do very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 As we continue to question Billy's arm Bump........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Can anyone comment on the role of muscle mass and velocity? For example, if a pitcher was able to work out longer and harder, could it improve his velocity? Or is it a natural gift that can't really be improved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Depends on his condition. I dont think he'll reach 10 and he'll have more blown saves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 I dont think he'll reach 10 and he'll have more blown saves. Nuke, we agree on something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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