R.J. Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I like Neal Cotts but this might not be the right time to sit back and hope he blossoms rapidly. If we're looking for a 5th starter and possible closer help, what about Byung-Hyun Kim? He's had a couple of poor outings but compared to Wright/Diaz and tonight's potential Cotts outing he's rock f'n solid. Plus, he's a surefire guy to have coming out of the pen. He's stuck in AAA and the Red Sox don't seem to have him in any of their plans for this year. Problem is, he's being paid a pretty decent amount, close to $5 mil I think, and because they're the Red Sox, I'm not sure there's anyone we can give them that we don't desperately need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 He's got arm problems at the moment, I've never liked Kim much as a starter, always thought he was betta as a setup man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Same here. He would make a very good set-up man (even a closer) for us for a long time considering his youth. (24 yrs. old) As a starter? I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 It's funny because people said this about Shoeneweis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 (edited) i've never liked the guy (kim). no real reason, just don't... Edited May 23, 2004 by Goldmember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 It's funny because people said this about Shoeneweis. Kim can't go higher than 89 MPH on his fastball, no thanx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 The Sox have a Byung-Hyun Kim - his name is Shingo Takatsu, should we just start him instead? I don't like the idea of Kim in a Sox uni - if they're going to trade for a guy, I'd like someone a little better than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Kim can't go higher than 89 MPH on his fastball, no thanx. Moyer is lucky when he hits 85. There is more to this game than velocity. If Kim didn't have a lot of zeroes in his contract, I would want him around. As it is, he makes too much money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 BK is a potential 15 game winner. The Red Sox are going to get ripped off regardless of where they trade him, and there's no place I'd rather see him than on the Southside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Kim may not throw all that hard, but I always remember him having a lightening quick release and batters are always behind on him. I'd take him, but the BoSox can't ask for much in return and will have to pick up his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I like Neal Cotts but this might not be the right time to sit back and hope he blossoms rapidly. If we're looking for a 5th starter and possible closer help, what about Byung-Hyun Kim? He's had a couple of poor outings but compared to Wright/Diaz and tonight's potential Cotts outing he's rock f'n solid. Plus, he's a surefire guy to have coming out of the pen. He's stuck in AAA and the Red Sox don't seem to have him in any of their plans for this year. Problem is, he's being paid a pretty decent amount, close to $5 mil I think, and because they're the Red Sox, I'm not sure there's anyone we can give them that we don't desperately need. Dumb Trade. You don't give up and a young lefty that easy... Some trade ideas around here are laughable :headshake If Bill Veeck was alive many here would ahve a job with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 It is a "whacky idea" and I don't think the Sox should or would give it a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 Dumb Trade. You don't give up and a young lefty that easy... Some trade ideas around here are laughable :headshake If Bill Veeck was alive many here would ahve a job with him I don't think he was implying dealing Cotts. He was rather saying he wants Cotts in the bullpen for the year and then move him into the rotation. I'm assuming the Sox wouldn't be giving up much anything for Kim, considering he doesn't have any trade value and he has a big time contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 23, 2004 Share Posted May 23, 2004 I'd do it just to get him in our bullpen. He'd be a nice righty along with Shingo, Jackson, and Adkins. I no longer consider Politte very good (once he starts using his change and slider he'll be more effective) and Koch is the closer. I'd do it if: a.) we don't give up that much for him. b.) they eat most, if not all of that contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Dumb Trade. You don't give up and a young lefty that easy... Some trade ideas around here are laughable :headshake If Bill Veeck was alive many here would ahve a job with him It's dumb to trade an unproven 24 year old lefty for a proven 25 year old righty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 b.) they eat most, if not all of that contract. The Red Sox won't ever eat the contract, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 It's dumb to trade an unproven 24 year old lefty for a proven 25 year old righty? I personally don't think it would take Cotts to get Kim. Even if Kim was just a reliever for us, that would be nice. He and Shingo could be some pretty tough righties out of the pen, tough to pick up their throwing motions, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I personally don't think it would take Cotts to get Kim. Even if Kim was just a reliever for us, that would be nice. He and Shingo could be some pretty tough righties out of the pen, tough to pick up their throwing motions, etc. The Red Sox dont need Cotts. They have plenty of young major league ready lefties, i.e Lenny Dinardo, Mark Malaska etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 It's dumb to trade an unproven 24 year old lefty for a proven 25 year old righty? A 25 yr old Rigthy who's reached his potential and has Arm Problems?? I'll keep the 24 yr old Lefty Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.J. Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 Read carefully, I never said deal Cotts. Cotts has a bright future in front of him. But that future might not come this season. Which is why we obviously have to start looking around for help. Kim was a top closer just 2 years ago, and last year sported an ERA of 3.13... or something. He's a quality and versatile arm. God forbid one of our pitchers goes down, he can be inserted anyplace. Just thinking of guys who don't fit in on their teams and would be available this early, y'know? Who we give up for him and whether it's worth the $$$ is a whole other issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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