winninguglyin83 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 dude pitched six scoreless innings against the Phillies last night. he's pitched well in two of his three appearances for the Mets. Art Howe says they're keeping him in the rotation and stretching him out. He's 1-0 with an ERA of 3.24, I think. Another kid with an excellent arm the Sox gave up on too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 dude pitched six scoreless innings against the Phillies last night. he's pitched well in two of his three appearances for the Mets. Art Howe says they're keeping him in the rotation and stretching him out. He's 1-0 with an ERA of 3.24, I think. Another kid with an excellent arm the Sox gave up on too soon. Based on 3 appearences? Wow, that is a quick annointment of giving up on someone too quick. See also Josh Fogg for an example of speaking too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Against Houston he gave up 8 hits over 5.2 innings. 2 runs, only 1 earned. Against Coloroda, he gave up 7 hits over 5 innings, and 5 earned runs. Hes had 1 good outing against Philly, the outing against Houston could of been a disaster. Also this is the NL. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Trading for a 4th outfielder does not mean you gave up on the guy you traded away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 How about no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Even if we had Ginter, we have better options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 We just need someone with experience that can milk innings. Like John Burkett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I think the Sox gave Ginter quite a bit of time. Things just didn't pan out and he needed a change of scenery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 BP Ginter couldn't have been gone soon enough...What a waste of a 1st round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 Ginter will have a better MLB career than Timo Perez. The sox haven't had a fifth starter pitch six scoreless innings against ANYBODY in two years. Not Wright. Not Porzio. Not Cotts. Not Diaz. Not Art Kusyner. Not Kirk McCaskill. Not Ray Herbert. Ginter has a good arm. and that was the Phillies, not the devil rays, he pitched against. The Sox relentlessly jerked him around -- starter, closer, set-up man, closer, starter, closer, starter. He'll have a solid career. End of discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Ginter will have a better MLB career than Timo Perez. The sox haven't had a fifth starter pitch six scoreless innings against ANYBODY in two years. Not Wright. Not Porzio. Not Cotts. Not Diaz. Not Art Kusyner. Not Kirk McCaskill. Not Ray Herbert. Ginter has a good arm. and that was the Phillies, not the devil rays, he pitched against. The Sox relentlessly jerked him around -- starter, closer, set-up man, closer, starter, closer, starter. He'll have a solid career. End of discussion. Or, you're wrong. End of discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Eh, Ginter wasn't out answer and everyone knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Why do u think the Mets are so desperate for another starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted May 28, 2004 Author Share Posted May 28, 2004 The Mets aren't the only team desperate for a fifth starter. Just don't think getting Timo Perez for Ginter was equal value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 The Mets aren't the only team desperate for a fifth starter. Just don't think getting Timo Perez for Ginter was equal value. Timo Perez had a major league career before he came here. Matt Ginter did not. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Timo hasn't done terrible, 250 average, not a good OBP percentage but he's a fourth outfielder, what do you expect? And he hasn't really played very well at any time this season either... Just rag on KW any time you can, eh? :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Timo hasn't done terrible, 250 average, not a good OBP percentage but he's a fourth outfielder, what do you expect? And he hasn't really played very well at any time this season either... Just rag on KW any time you can, eh? :fyou No reason for that CWS guy, people are allowed to give an opinion without a finger, aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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