sox-r-us Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Many of you may kill me for this, but I would love to have someone like Shawn Estes on this team right now He is 8-3 this year despite playing in Colorado and would be a perfect 5th starter this year for us If we get a stud, then we put Scho in the BP That way we get Stud, Buerhle, Elo, Garland, Estes as the 5 starters for the remainder of the year And we send Cotts down and let Scho be the other left hander next to Marte for the BP Marte, Shingo and Scho would make this a 3 deep BP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 how much do u think we could get estes for? is it possible that a deal with him could even be worked out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Many of you may kill me for this, but I would love to have someone like Shawn Estes on this team right now He is 8-3 this year despite playing in Colorado and would be a perfect 5th starter this year for us If we get a stud, then we put Scho in the BP That way we get Stud, Buerhle, Elo, Garland, Estes as the 5 starters for the remainder of the year And we send Cotts down and let Scho be the other left hander next to Marte for the BP Marte, Shingo and Scho would make this a 3 deep BP :headshake :puke :puke :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 Estes is only paid $600K this year....really cheap Give the Rockies some draft pick or some A prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 :headshake :puke :puke :puke So you prefer rauch, diaz, wright, cotts to estes? If we do get more good pitching we can always send him down....his salary is really low, why not take a chance while we continue to bleed thanks to no 5th starter Not like we have to give up anything to get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Estes is only paid $600K this year....really cheap Give the Rockies some draft pick or some A prospect HOW MANY TIMES HAS IT BEEN SAID EXPLAINED AND RESAID THAT YOU CAN'T TRADE DRAFT PICKS IN BASEBALL :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 if he is 8 - 3 with the rockies, then i dont see why people wouldnt REALLY f***IN WANT HIM ON THIS TEAM RIGHT NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 So you prefer rauch, diaz, wright, cotts to estes? If we do get more good pitching we can always send him down....his salary is really low, why not take a chance while we continue to bleed thanks to no 5th starter Not like we have to give up anything to get him ESTES SUCKS. AIM HIGHER, I'M SICK OF SETTLLING FOR CRAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 HOW MANY TIMES HAS IT BEEN SAID EXPLAINED AND RESAID THAT YOU CAN'T TRADE DRAFT PICKS IN BASEBALL :banghead Then give them some scrub prospect....big deal...the Rockies will be ready to unload anyone and everyone soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 ESTES SUCKS. AIM HIGHER, I'M SICK OF SETTLLING FOR CRAP how does someone that is 8 - 3 crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 and honestly, id rather have shoe outta the pen then cotts... id rather cotts be pitching in AAA building up to be a starter, because honestly, he isnt even doin that great from the pen ever since we tried starting him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 ESTES SUCKS. AIM HIGHER, I'M SICK OF SETTLLING FOR CRAP Yes aim higher....of course, but until Seattle is ready to deal Garcia, what is wrong in getting a 5th starter to stop losing these games See what happens tomorrow when Rauch gets rocked again....if Kenny had gotten Estes in the off season, I bet we would be at least 3games above Minny right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 how does someone that is 8 - 3 crap? Records mean s*** His ERA AND WHIP SUCKS. I'LL PASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 whats his ERA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 5.30 ERA 1.57 WHIP. NO THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 5.30 ERA 1.57 WHIP. NO THANKS I agree with you he is a total piece of s***. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 after seein that, yup.. no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Make your pick: Pitcher A 8-3 5.30 ERA 1.57 WHIP Pitcher B 4-6 3.24 ERA 1.23 WHIP Pitcher C 7-4 4.80 ERA 1.56 WHIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 B - Garcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Make your pick: Pitcher A 8-3 5.30 ERA 1.57 WHIP Pitcher B 4-6 3.24 ERA 1.23 WHIP Pitcher C 7-4 4.80 ERA 1.56 WHIP My choice would be not a or c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 My point, you can't judge by a pitchers record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 My point, you can't judge by a pitchers record Exactly if they keep you in the game that is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Exactly if they keep you in the game that is all that matters. Another small Example 1992 Jack Morris 21-6 4.04 ERA 5.5 Run Support Jim Abbott 7-15 2.72 ERA 2.2 Run Support Who was the Better Pitcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Another small Example 1992 Jack Morris 21-6 4.04 ERA 5.5 Run Support Jim Abbott 7-15 2.72 ERA 2.2 Run Support Who was the Better Pitcher? Morris was good but not nearly as good as abbott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 So you prefer rauch, diaz, wright, cotts to estes? YES Estes is awful. He can stay in Colorado for all I care. Million dollar arm. 1 dollar brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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