Gene Honda Civic Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Last thing i heard about his health. But i think it does not look as good now since they non-tenderdd him. Yocum is a guy the Sox trust though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I really like that stat, Cheat, ERA+, and off the top of my head, it seems that the only pitcher with a consistent ERA+ better than his was Pedro. I'm a big Wade Miller fan, but there's no reason to overstate the case. Pedro, Johnson, Schilling, Schmidt, Oswalt.... Very similar over his career to Wood's ERA+ numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I'm a big Wade Miller fan, but there's no reason to overstate the case. Pedro, Johnson, Schilling, Schmidt, Oswalt.... Very similar over his career to Wood's ERA+ numbers. My bad Jackie, I said it wrong.  I kind of meant the second best ERA+ for the 'available' pitchers -- not all pitcher's in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 My bad Jackie, I said it wrong. I kind of meant the second best ERA+ for the 'available' pitchers -- not all pitcher's in general. Okay, just misunderstood. Totally agree then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I still want perez over miller because of the shoulder. But I would want Miller over Lowe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raff Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 dont know if its been already said, but im sure its known that AJ+WADE = about 9 million, what we have left. i would not be displeased with that offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I would be very happy. It would be a sucessful offseason if we make those two acquisitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Man....I would fricken love to get Wade, this is very good that he was non-tendered because atleast now there are two good free agent starters still available along with Odalis. I wonder if it would be possible to fit Wade and AJ under the budget. It seems there were rumors that Kenny was looking to trade for him, so there might be a pretty good chance that we take a hard look at him on the market. Wow, he'd be an excellent pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Miller want to remain a 'Stro  "Obviously, I got to look at it optimistically," Miller said. "Hopefully I can still get something done with Houston. It's still not over yet. Anything can happen now. I feel good. I'll start throwing in two weeks.  http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2957230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Miller want to remain a 'Stro    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2957230 they all say that... its bad PR not to (not that some dont anyway) ... im not sure he'll stay in Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 If the Astros do not sign him, it will be interesting to see if he's willing to head to a team that would make him a late inning reliever. The guy is absolutely made for the 8th and 9th innings, it's a shame he won't consider doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Count me in on Miller too. Even if he wouldn't be ready until May or June I'd want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 he's someone who would be worth giving a contract to in hopes of a long term signing... he's a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Red Sox could be interested; Â It will be interesting to see if the Red Sox pursue right-hander Wade Miller, who was not offered a contract by the Astros. Miller's name surfaced in the Sox's discussions with the Astros about Roberts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybearhater Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 count me in on miller, he was a workhorse until last year, he wouldnt be a bad guy to take a chance on in the rotation. Dont forgeot he was like 34-12 in the past years before this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 If the stros non-tendered him, they may know something we don't. Although, they are about as cheap as the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 If the stros non-tendered him, they may know something we don't. Although, they are about as cheap as the White Sox. They may be saving money for Beltran, or they think he might have won too much in arbitration... they can still sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 They may be saving money for Beltran, or they think he might have won too much in arbitration... they can still sign him They know the only chance they have at Beltran and Clemens is to free up money as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I'd love Miller on the Southside.  Buehrle Garcia Miller Contreras Garland  Not too shabby. Its a shame Kenny won't even give him the time of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I'd love Miller on the Southside. Buehrle Garcia Miller Contreras Garland  Not too shabby. Its a shame Kenny won't even give him the time of day.  Your right I would love to see this come together, I been a fan of Miller for years.. and of Wade's also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I'd love Miller on the Southside. Buehrle Garcia Miller Contreras Garland  Not too shabby. Its a shame Kenny won't even give him the time of day. How do you know that? even if we can't get him this year...we could do what the Yanks did with Lieber...write off this year if his shoulders bad and start him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I'd love Miller on the Southside. Buehrle Garcia Miller Contreras Garland  Not too shabby. Its a shame Kenny won't even give him the time of day. I can only hope that KW was looking at this group with an eye on Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 How do you know that? even if we can't get him this year...we could do what the Yanks did with Lieber...write off this year if his shoulders bad and start him next year. Hell I said give him a 2 year and a 3rd year option..see what we got to lose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 How do you know that? even if we can't get him this year...we could do what the Yanks did with Lieber...write off this year if his shoulders bad and start him next year. I don't know it...just speculating based on the desire for a multi-year contract coming off some injuries. It doesn't sound like Reinsdorf to me. Not one bit.  In any case, I would love to be proven wrong on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I don't know it...just speculating based on the desire for a multi-year contract coming off some injuries. It doesn't sound like Reinsdorf to me. Not one bit. In any case, I would love to be proven wrong on this. Me too...and as I think was said earlier in this thread, the Sox trust Dr. Yocum. I'm sure they will call both Miller and Yocum to see how the arm is progressing. I hope that shoulder is good, cuz he would look great in a Sox uni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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