DABearSoX Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Ok lets see here..... 2004: MB Loaiza Garland Shoenweiss ? 2005: MB Garcia Duque Contreas Garland i don't see what everyone is complaining about....this rotation looks 10 times better then the start of last year, and the pen is solid unlike the kids in there last year..... So compare for yourselves and think before you b**** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molto Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Ok lets see here..... 2004: MB Loaiza Garland Shoenweiss ? 2005: MB Garcia Duque Contreas Garland i don't see what everyone is complaining about....this rotation looks 10 times better then the start of last year, and the pen is solid unlike the kids in there last year..... So compare for yourselves and think before you b**** thank you. we've gotten weaker on offense, although the new look will be more fun to watch, but our defense, rotation and pen have all improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Agree. People are underestimating the power of additions on of Contreas and Garcia for a whole season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesockmalon84 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I don't know what everyone is complaining about either because we didn't win any major championships with Maggs, and Lee. We still have Konerko, and that should still add some power. We have Dye, and Thomas. Uribe can add some pop, and even Rowand so whats all the complaining. Even Spod can too but he adds more defense, and speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 i like that we're at least willing to change and show some kind of commitment to winning....some teams would have just thrown in the towel and traded for prospects by now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemg311 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 and lets not forget that maggs and frank were hurt for almost the whole second half. Now i think dye can put up better numbers then the right field maggs replacement fiasco that went on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesockmalon84 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Yeh we have to forget about the past years with Maggs and Lee and move on. That was a past that wasn't so good except for the 2000 season. Although Maggs was great, and made it to the Allstar game a couple times, and Lee ressurected into a star we still didn't accomplish our goal, and that was win major championships like the world series, or a pennant. We have to change, and make things better for us. I hope that's what everyone wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesockmalon84 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 We also have to be proud of what management has done to improve our stadium. Now we have green seats, and that should help our reputation a lot more. It shows everyone that were improving as an organization, and were developing our ballpark into a fan friendly ballpark while adding these players to improve our team. Now all we need to do is go to these games, and fill the seats. Than at next year's winter meetings, or in July when we have a lot of money we can sign some more key free agents like a Kevin Brown, or someone like a AROD. Maybe even a solid catcher. Maybe we can resign another Maggs who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox4life05 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I'm really looking forward to next season. Like you said the pitching staff is going to be very solid however I do see consistency issues. No complaints with Buerhle but how inconsistant have Garland and Contreras been in the past? VERY... I know they are excellent pitchers but I feel they really need to prove themselves this year. Garcia I have a feeling will be great, he really only has had one bad season. And I really dont know what to think about El Duque. He passed his phyisical with flying colors which is great, my only worry is that he can last the entire season in the starting rotation since he hasnt thrown more than 200 innings since when? I'm not sure if he ever has. The rotation still has its problems but I congradulate KW on doing an excellent job with the money he had available to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesockmalon84 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hopefully the fans at Soxfest this year will be a lot more friendlier to KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hopefully the fans at Soxfest this year will be a lot more friendlier to KW. Don't bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I'm really looking forward to next season. Like you said the pitching staff is going to be very solid however I do see consistency issues. No complaints with Buerhle but how inconsistant have Garland and Contreras been in the past? VERY... I know they are excellent pitchers but I feel they really need to prove themselves this year. Garcia I have a feeling will be great, he really only has had one bad season. And I really dont know what to think about El Duque. He passed his phyisical with flying colors which is great, my only worry is that he can last the entire season in the starting rotation since he hasnt thrown more than 200 innings since when? I'm not sure if he ever has. The rotation still has its problems but I congradulate KW on doing an excellent job with the money he had available to use. Welcome to soxtalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hopefully the fans at Soxfest this year will be a lot more friendlier to KW. Yeah, there's really no reason to b****. I give this offseason a B which I cannot say about most teams. Adding Eckstein would put it up to an A. There's no reason to grill Kenny. He's done a hell of a job the past YEAR with the entire pitching staff. He's added: Garcia COntreras Hernandez Shingo Hermanson Politte Vizcaino All this in a little over 1 year. Not frickin' bad KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hopefully the fans at Soxfest this year will be a lot more friendlier to KW. Not sure if aboz and the other riots will settle down unless we get Eck or Cora. BTW, I'm sure the b****ing will stop since Anthrax is suspended now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySoxFan Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 this team needed a overhaul for sure.... i cant wait for Hawk to start dropping new nicknames on the new sox. however, "Peapod'', gotta do better than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Anthrax is suspended now. That is a load of s***. :puke It's amazing how some succumb to an overwhelming opinion. ANthrax gets banned for his opinions, which may seem quite unusual, but everyone is entitled to their opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesockmalon84 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hey what do you guys all think about the problems at Wrigley Field. Do you guys think there going to use nets again for next year, or are they going to let it crumple on people. Well atleast we have a stadium thats not doing that. We have green seats now, and a stadium that is in great shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 It's amazing how some succumb to an overwhelming opinion. ANthrax gets banned for his opinions, which may seem quite unusual, but everyone is entitled to their opinions. I've already said he's my favorite poster. But he was over the line. I didn't mind him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 That is a load of s***. :puke It's amazing how some succumb to an overwhelming opinion. ANthrax gets banned for his opinions, which may seem quite unusual, but everyone is entitled to their opinions. i disagree on this man, there's a difference in expressing opinions and just being a complete asshole to everyone, in basically every thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesockmalon84 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Actually I read an article a minute ago and it said it's deemed safe at Wrigley. Ok forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 i disagree on this man, there's a difference in expressing opinions and just being a complete asshole to everyone, in basically every thread. So what if he does? He only broke a rule once, and that was calling me a dips***. He has not broken ANY rules. Sure, he's an asshole, but for the life of me I cannot FATHOM how people are letting some 15 year old kid get under their skin. Seriously. I think he provides some relief for this offseason. It's kind of funny reading 10 posts that say the same thing and agree with each other, and then we got Anthrax chiming in " WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS SMOKING THIS GUY SUCKS". Some people take the internet WAY too seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Considering the fact that my opinion of Anthrax is well known around here, I'm gonna keep my mouth shut and let the powers that be do what they feel is the proper thing to do. I just want to go on record that I personally have not discussed anthrax with any of the Soxtalk admins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I don't know what everyone is complaining about either because we didn't win any major championships with Maggs, and Lee. We still have Konerko, and that should still add some power. We have Dye, and Thomas. Uribe can add some pop, and even Rowand so whats all the complaining. Even Spod can too but he adds more defense, and speed. Good Post, and I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Good Post, and I agree It was definitely time to try another approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 Also look at this..... Look at Valentin's HR's for Comiskey 1997 MIL 17 1998 MIL 16 1999 MIL 10 2000 CHW 25 2001 CHW 28 2002 CHW 25 2003 CHW 28 2004 CHW 30 I think Dye should do rather well here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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