Using one season as the basis, put together the best Sox team of the past 20 years. 9 Players by position, DH, Lefty and Righty starters, Long, Mid, Set-up, and Closer. One season counts so guys like Belle, Estaban, etc. are perfectly acceptable.

 

Bonus points add the year.

 

Catcher Carlton Fisk 1989

1st Frank Thomas 1996

2nd Ray Durham 1998

3rd Robin Ventura1996

SS Ozzie Guillen 1990

OF Harold Baines 1989 Magglio Ordonez 2002 ??

DH Frank Thomas 2000

SRHP Jack McDowell 1993

SLHP Mark Buerhle 2002

Closer Bobby Thigpen 1990

Edited January 5, 200521 yr by Texsox

Rotation:

 

1. Jack McDowell '93 (256.2 IP, 22 W, 10 L, 10 CG, 3.37 ERA)

2. Esteban Loaiza '03 (226.1 IP, 21 W, 9 L, 1 CG, 2.90 ERA)

3. Wilson Alvarez '93 (207.2 IP, 15 W, 8 L, 1 CG, 2.95 ERA)

4. Mark Buehrle '01 (221.1 IP, 16 W, 8 L, 4 CG, 3.29 ERA)

5. Bartolo Colon '03 (242.0 IP, 15 W, 13 L, 9 CG, 3.87 ERA)*iffy*

 

Bullpen:

 

CL Bobby Thigpen '90 (88.2 IP, 4 W, 6 L, 57 S, 1.83 ERA)

SU Keith Foulke '99 (105.1 IP, 3 W, 3 L, 9 S, 2.22 ERA)

SU Damaso Marte '03 (79.2 IP, 4 W, 2 L, 11 S, 1.58 ERA)

RP Roberto Harnandez '92 (71.0 IP, 7 W, 3 L, 12 S, 1.65 ERA)

RP Shingo Takatsu '04 (62.1 IP, 6 W, 4 L, 19 S, 2.31 ERA)

LR Jon Garland '01 (117.0 IP, 35 G, 16 GS, 6 W, 7 L, 3.69 ERA)

 

Lineup:

 

2B Ray Durham '99 (.296 AVE, 8 3B, 13 HR, 60 RBI, 34 SB)

CF Aaron Rowand '04 (.310 AVE, 38 2B, 24 HR, 69 RBI, 17 SB)

1B Frank Thomas '94 (.353 AVE, 34 2B, 38 HR, 101 RBI, 109 BB)****see below****

LF Albert Belle '98 (.328 AVE, 48 2B, 49 HR, 152 RBI, 81 BB)

RF Magglio Ordonez '02 (.320 AVE, 47 2B, 38 HR, 135 RBI, 7 SB)

3B Robin Ventura '96 (.287 AVE, 31 2B, 34 HR, 105 RBI, 78 BB)

DH Harold Baines '85 (.309 AVE, 29 2B, 22 HR, 113 RBI, 42 BB)

C Carlton Fisk '85 (.237 AVE, 23 2B, 37 HR, 107 RBI, 17 SB)

SS Jose Valentin '00 (.273 AVE, 37 2B, 25 HR, 92 RBI, 19 SB)

 

There were times where I could have used players twice like Frank as DH in 2000, but I wanted to stay away from that.

 

*'94 was the strike year. Frank put those numbers up in only 399 AB. He was on pace for more than 50 homers and disgusting all around numbers.

Does CJ count for catcher? We picked him up at the deadline, but he was solid as anyone...

 

 

For the Sox:

 

135 AB, 10 HR, 36 RBI, .326 AVE, .411 OBP, 1.018 OPS

 

If he qualifies then, I'll that over Fisk...

Alrighty.

 

I'm fairly young, so I won't have one of the better lists, but I'll give it a shot anyways (20 years, correct? Oh, and I'm not going to do a batting order, either):

 

At Catcher, we got Carlton Fisk of 1990. While his average dipped a little, his OBP went up 20+ points, and he still had a fair amount of RBIs/HRs. Not too tough of a decision, considering the others we've had the past 20 years.

 

First Base - Frank Thomas of 1996. Now, I was looking for Frank Thomas' numbers (like I said, I wasn't such an avid fan when I was eight years old). He was friggin amazing in '96. 40 HRs, 134 RBIs, with a BA/OBP of .349/.459 (drooling smile). Such an amazing player...

 

Second Base - 1999 Ray Durham. He'd probably be my leadoff hitter, with a .296 AVG and a .373 OBP. Lot's of strikeouts, but whatever...

 

Third Base - 1995 Robin Ventura. He gives us the lefty force in the lineup, with a .294 AVG, and a .384 OBP. Power is solid, with 26 HRs and 93 RBIs.

 

Shorstop - 2000 Jose Valentin. More lefty power. I really didn't consider anyone else, even though I didn't look. Solid defense, good AVG/OPS in 2000.

 

Right Field - 2002 Magglio Ordonez. Magglio's best season in his major league career. .320 BA, .381 OBP, 38 bombs with 135 knocked in. I dislike what Magglio has done now, but damn, did he put up some great numbers while in this uniform...

 

Center Field - Aaron Rowand, 2004. Rowand's breakout year. Love his defense, too. I now consider him the best overall player on our team (five tool player), now that C-Lee is gone.

 

Left Field - Albert Belle of 1998. What a f***ing season. 49 HRs, 152 knocked in, with a BA/OBP of .328/.399. Defensively, I don't remember, but he's got A-Row in right to cover his ass.

 

Starting Pitchers, with no explanations attached (in no certain order):

 

Esteban Loaiza, 2003

Tom Seaver, 1985

Alex Fernandez, 1993

Wilson Alvarez, 1993

Bartolo Colon, 2003 (Meh, probably a bad pick)

 

Setup Man, Damaso Marte, 2003

Closer, Bobby Thigpen

I forgot about Alex, damn it...Yea he was solid in '93...How did we not win the series with the Jack, Wilson, and Alez 1-2-3 in the playoffs?!

 

Alex's in '93 takes the place of Colon in '03 for me...

Rotation:

 

1. Jack McDowell '93 (256.2 IP, 22 W, 10 L, 10 CG, 3.37 ERA)

2. Esteban Loaiza '03 (226.1 IP, 21 W, 9 L, 1 CG, 2.90 ERA)

3. Wilson Alvarez '93 (207.2 IP, 15 W, 8 L, 1 CG, 2.95 ERA)

4. Mark Buehrle '01 (221.1 IP, 16 W, 8 L, 4 CG, 3.29 ERA)

5. Bartolo Colon '03 (242.0 IP, 15 W, 13 L, 9 CG, 3.87 ERA)*iffy*

 

Bullpen:

 

CL Bobby Thigpen '90 (88.2 IP, 4 W, 6 L, 57 S, 1.83 ERA)

SU Keith Foulke '99 (105.1 IP, 3 W, 3 L, 9 S, 2.22 ERA)

SU Damaso Marte '03 (79.2 IP, 4 W, 2 L, 11 S, 1.58 ERA)

RP Roberto Harnandez '92 (71.0 IP, 7 W, 3 L, 12 S, 1.65 ERA)

RP Shingo Takatsu '04 (62.1 IP, 6 W, 4 L, 19 S, 2.31 ERA)

LR Jon Garland '01 (117.0 IP, 35 G, 16 GS, 6 W, 7 L, 3.69 ERA)

I get 1678 innings. That's a lot of long extra-innings games for such a good team.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 10:35 PM)

I forgot about Alex, damn it...Yea he was solid in '93...How did we not win the series with the Jack, Wilson, and Alez 1-2-3 in the playoffs?!

 

Alex's in '93 takes the place of Colon in '03 for me...

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McDowell was tipping his pitches in the playoffs.

 

I'm surprise people are taking Bartolo over Jason Bere of 1993 and 1994. I'd also nominate 2003 Flash Gordon for the pen.

I thought about Flash, but with he wasn't lights out like Foulke or Thigpen...

 

Bere didn't pitch enough and walked too many for my liking...I agree Colon shouldn't be there, but Fernandez should take his spot and you can't keep Jack's CY Young off the list, Wilson's '93, Loaiza's '03, and it's tough to kick Buerhle out...

Using one season as the basis, put together the best Sox team of the past 20 years. 9 Players by position, DH, Lefty and Righty starters, Long, Mid, Set-up, and Closer. One season counts so guys like Belle, Estaban, etc. are perfectly acceptable.

 

Bonus points add the year.

 

Catcher Carlton Fisk  1989

1st Frank Thomas 1996

2nd Ray Durham 1998

3rd Robin Ventura1996

SS Ozzie Guillen 1990

OF Harold Baines 1989 Magglio Ordonez 2002 ??

DH Frank Thomas 2000

SRHP Jack McDowell 1993

SLHP Mark  Buerhle 2002

Closer Bobby Thigpen 1990

 

 

 

That's an awesome lineup. I agree with everything there.

Not really on the subject, but there were some cool old clips of Goose Gossage pitching for the Sox on ESPN tonight.

Wearing the red pinstripe uniform.

Not really on the subject, but there were some cool old clips of Goose Gossage pitching for  the Sox on ESPN tonight. 

Wearing the red pinstripe uniform.

 

Welcome to soxtalk.

C - Fisk

1B - Konerko

2B - Durham

SS - Valentin

3B - Ventura

LF - Belle

CF - Rowand

RF - Ordonez

DH - Thomas

RHSP - McDowell

LHSP - Buehrle

CL - Thigpen

 

Using PK's 04 season over Frank at 1b so I could use Thomas as DH.

Valentin's 2000 season is the best we've seen from SS since little Looie

I went with Rowand's 04 season over One Dog in CF.

LF-POD

2B-IGUCHI

DH-THOMAS

1B-KONERKO

RF-DYE

C-AJP

CF-ROWAND

SS-URIBE

3B-CREDE

BENCH HARRIS, BURKE, PEREZ, GLOAD, DAVIS

 

SP

BUEHRLE

GARCIA

EL DUQUE

CONTREARS

GARLAND

 

PEN

ADKINS/COTTS

VIZ

POLLTIE

MARTE

HERMY

SHINGO

LF-POD

2B-IGUCHI

DH-THOMAS

1B-KONERKO

RF-DYE

C-AJP

CF-ROWAND

SS-URIBE

3B-CREDE

BENCH HARRIS, BURKE, PEREZ, GLOAD, DAVIS

 

SP

BUEHRLE

GARCIA

EL DUQUE

CONTREARS

GARLAND

 

PEN

ADKINS/COTTS

VIZ

POLLTIE

MARTE

HERMY

SHINGO

 

What is this?

I'll give it a go...

 

C- Carlton Fisk

1B- Frank Thomas

2B- Ray Durman

SS- Ozzie Guillen

3B- Robin Ventura

LF- Albert Belle

CF- Aaron Rowand

RF- Tim Raines (had to fit him in somewhere)

 

Starters (In no particular order):

Mark Buherle

Alex Fernandez

Wilson Alverez

Jack McDowell

Esteban Loiza (Circa 2003)

 

Bullpen:

Closer- Shingo Takasu

Setup- Damaso Marte

Setup- Tom Gordon

 

Ok thats all I can think of off the top of my head. It's too late to think of years.

what no shoeless joe????

what no shoeless joe????

 

Was he from the last twenty years?

Was he from the last twenty years?

 

ok wise ass, in the title it never said anyting in it that mention for the last 20 yrs and yes i saw the main post.

Squeeze me in a couple of more years and I'd throw in Lamarr Hoyt from 83 (24-10).

ok wise ass, in the title it never said anyting in it that mention for the last 20 yrs and yes i saw the main post.

 

Then i do not understand why you would mention him.

Then i do not understand why you would mention him.

 

like i said, i only read the title and not the post until later.

 

what is your prob with me. you been getting to me on these little bs mistakes. you done it when i came back and before.

like i said, i only read the title and not the post until later.

 

what is your prob with me. you been getting to me on these little bs mistakes. you done it when i came back and before.

 

I am sorry, i will never correct you or anyone else again. I also hope no one ever corrects me again.

 

Also, i have no problem with you at all.

Welcome to soxtalk.

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Thank you, I signed up a couple of months ago, but just changed my name to avoid confusion. I was Winnin' Ugly, but there were a couple with very similar names so i changed.

LF-POD

2B-IGUCHI

DH-THOMAS

1B-KONERKO

RF-DYE

C-AJP

CF-ROWAND

SS-URIBE

3B-CREDE

BENCH HARRIS, BURKE, PEREZ, GLOAD, DAVIS

 

SP

BUEHRLE

GARCIA

EL DUQUE

CONTREARS

GARLAND

 

PEN

ADKINS/COTTS

VIZ

POLLTIE

MARTE

HERMY

SHINGO

 

definitely not the best team of players to come up with

Thank you, I signed up a couple of months ago, but just changed my name to avoid confusion.  I was Winnin' Ugly, but there were a couple with very similar names so i changed.

 

yeah there are so many winnin ugly people

welcome